West Coast Main Line: Trent Valley From All Aboard Studios

Quality over quantity would do for a start. What use is 108 miles if half of them are spent looking through a lens that's been smeared with vaseline or, as some others have already reported, one that crashes less than half way through.

Winding the clock back a few years but imagine how many people would have bought Superman 64 because they wanted it, and didn't read reviews first!

 

Im really enjoying the route on ps5. No problems yet!

 

I have not purchased it just yet but I saw a friend on Discord post a picture of a very blurry 807 on Series S

 

Same here. If I’m unsure about a certain route I usually wait until it’s released and see what it’s really like when other people play the route for a while first.

 

they did indicate that series S would struggle on the full timetable and to recommend using the reduced (not sure whether your friend was running on the full or reduced)

 

I was actually looking forward to this route releasing as DTG's decision to do a run on Xbox on the preview stream had me optimistic. Now having seen some of the screenshots on the feedback thread it's become clear that AABS are incapable of making a route that can run on console. It seems like every single one of their releases is unplayable on console without disabling large amounts of layers. I'm glad I haven't decided to buy any of their products and probably never will unless they get their act together.

 

Did a northbound 390 service on Xbox Series X during my lunch break (not full run as didn’t have time, but got as far as Lichfield).

Minor blurry textures appeared at Nuneaton which seemed to be just on the exterior of the train - interior of the cab not affected and landscape textures seemed fine. Possibly triggered by me entering Photo Mode at
Nuneaton as this is when it started, but can’t confirm at this point.

This aside though, what a BRILLIANT run for the Pendolino. Really stretches its legs and felt exhilarating to hurtle along at a consistent 125mph. A particular highlight was the run into Rugby, looked and felt amazing. Really looking forward to continuing my run later this evening.

Obviously barely scratched the surface yet, but very positive so far. Will caveat this by saying not tried the 350 yet which has historically suffered MUCH more with blurries than the Pendo, but so far so good.

 

Reposting this from the feedback thread, with a few questions for those that watched the preview stream:
It was streamed on Series X, right?
Was it full or reduced timetable?
Were all layers active?
Were these settings (whatever they were) disclosed by the hosts?

Because all i saw were postive comments and the release day feedback seems quite different.

 

What have they made? I might have missed it. I’m not aware of anything from them other than the Class 70 which hasn’t come out yet. But that’s still very different to a Class 67.

 

In the meantime, I'm still waiting for DTG to send out a patch that means I can at least play on TSW and purchase the route.

 

I’d really like a 67 set, but unless it comes as a more expansive pack focused solely around it, it’ll have even less gameplay than the class 90 pack.

I think it’s pretty likely we’ll see a 196/7 oriented route soon though, they’ll want to do with those what they’ve been doing with the AT300 & 350’s for the past year.

 

How is it running on series x

 

So far so good for me but others have had problems.

 

Thanks for your feedback! How busy is the route with other services and passing AI traffic etc.?

 

well, about that


This is on the Series S, and due to the length and size of Trent Valley, it wasn’t really a shock that blurry textures would appear again.


I’ve heard that there are little to no blurry textures on PS5 and Xbox Series X…so it’s not catastrophic like B2C

seems to be affecting systems with less RAM, like the series s

 

Saw a reasonable amount. It’s not as busy as WCMLS but presume the traffic is reflective of real life.

 

Could anyone tell someone a bit dim how to use the speed set on the 807?

 

i've posted on the feedback thread that i don't think it's working on the series x but someone else seems to be able to use it

edit: spoken to them on DM and they can use it but only because they use a keyboard as there's no xbox controller shortcut that sets the speed

 

This must be the base PS5 that’s suffering from the technical mishaps.
On the pro I’ve experienced no crashes whatsoever. I’ve done multiple runs on B2C, WCMLS, MVL and GWR (all I’m playing at the moment).
That extra bit of memory in the pro really does wonders.

 

speak for yourself. AABS products work fine on my console. No need to slate them when it actually be a personal issue. I do understand the frustration of the people who do suffer with it though.

 

Someone just posted an image in the feedback thread of people spawning on the track near Stafford. Come on AABS/DTG, simply not good enough.

 

Issues like this I put them down to a core problem with the game code. I think it’s unfair to blame the 3PD’s.

 

Base ps5 doing great for me. No blurry textures on the route. I did experience some blurring while doing the run from London to Crewe but all that was in the wcmls part of the trip.

 

Freight is very thin on this barely anything not sure its like that irl tho.

 

I just found this screenshot on the discord, so it’s not me that took it, apologies.

 

A big disappointment is the exclusion of the Class 90. Yes you can spawn in, but it’s a shame ATS and AABS couldn’t find a way to make it work.

 

I'm obviously going to be frustrated when routes release that have blurry textures. Personally ,with the routes I have now, if blurry textures show up too much I just quit, it's not fun looking at a route that looks like mashed potatoes. Even though I haven't bought any AABS products, it doesn't take long to realise that they aren't very good at making products that work on consoles, I mean one look at any of their feedback threads shows that instantly. I'm happy for you that you don't experience blurry textures on console but for most people blurry textures are a big part of the game, and it gets frustrating when every new release has them (mainly AABS products).

 

Is it most people on consoles though? The majority of people who don't experience them aren't going to say so.

My last console experience was a PS2 but it seems odd that some experience problems but others don't. I thought all consoles were generally the same, within each model? Unlike PCs which often differ.

 

A friend of mine who has the PS5 pro, installed the route and is now suffering from repeated crashes. It's the first time he's experienced it

 

I'm not sure to be honest. I feel like there's some routes where others experience blurry textures but I generally don't and then some the other way around. For routes I don't own I just go off of the forums and the british ace (seems to be one of the only ambassadors who still shows off content on consoles) and from what I see there all of the AABS add-ons have serious issues on console.
I'm guessing the different people experiencing different problems comes from different layers and amount of content installed? Otherwise I've got no idea.

 

It does sound like a nightmare, especially trying to fix the problem.

Yes I suppose amount of add-ons and layers is going to affect things.

 

There’s a lot of factors I find, peak times of day or running a service at a time where a particular layer will show up & using the external camera are probably the two surefire ways to make the issue appear. At least that’s how it is for routes that are 50/50 on whether you’ll get the issue.

Others such as B2C with all layers though are just a straight up guaranteed blur fest.

The interesting ones I’ve seen on the forum are WCMLS & MAC. Now I have had the issue on MAC appear once, but that was it. WCMLS (default TT) I’ve never had it, but seen others report it.

Still though, if there are genuinely people out there (and they are according to this thread) who don’t have this issue, I’d love to see a full run of B2C with all layers enabled on a console, without any blurring.

 

for those interested in route hopping to drive a single service from crewe to london, it exists, problem is that a lot of the services don't actually stop at MK in real life, but the services have to start/end here in the game. so finding a service that actually has a scheduled stop at MK to enable you to drive the same service from london to crewe might be tricky

 

Isn’t the 70 already layered in ready when it releases?

 

Should be possible with the Class 350 runs, they all stop at Milton and Crewe and since 2024 (I think it is) have run direct from Stafford instead of going via Stoke.

 

Can I ask. Are you using a 4k TV? If so. Is it bigger than 40"?

If the answer to any of those is no, then you avoid things by playing on HD... (HD setting looks really awful on a big 4k screen as DTG don't use an upscaler)

 

I would imagine that the amount of routes installed/layers/Hard Drive space are all going to make a difference (all variables). Probably why we don’t all see the same even on the same console.

 

Yes so hoping that brings a lot more.

 

Same here, I own MAC and have never experienced blurry textures on the route but have seen others with it. To be fair I don't own the voyager so that probably plays a part. I've seen blurry textures once I think on WCMLS around Euston but then never again. It's certainly strange how people on the same console can have very different experiences on the same routes.

 

Hows the game running on series x before I buy
Be using all layers

 

a bit of lag coming into MK (thought i was going to crash, but it struggled on) but otherwise fine

 

Do you have the 805?

 

Any PC/Steam experiences to report yet? And I’m guessing the bottom line some of us are looking for here - is it actually worth £33?

 

I would if no layers then not worth 33 but the layers do help in some parts. As said before just ecml route a 2 b with a few stops in between. And the 807 is so quite . But 350 sounds OK.

 

Good experience so far but I've not even finished my first non-stop run from Crewe to MK.

 

As I feared about the Class 807. High time IMHO we had a player option to pipe in the traction sound from the powered vehicles on MU stock with trailer end cars. I suppose there is the Class 390 but then I expect Journey Mode doesn't include that - just the 350 and 807.

 

Just done my first run on PS5. Milton Keynes to Crewe in the 390. Did have a bit of blurred textures going on once I got into Crewe but it wasn’t that noticeable (that’s with nearly all layers).

Dropped to about 15fps leaving Stafford which was strange, picked up once clear of the station though. That was my only complaint.

[edit] second run south in the 807, full blur out before even getting to Stafford… it does sort it self out every so often.

 

haven't looked at the route too deeply so far but I could have sworn I heard there would be London to Blackpool services stopping only at Nuneaton playable on the route with the 807 but I can't find any in the timetable

 

Can anyone confirm if route hopping to WCMLS works? On discord it has been said that it doesn’t allow you to hop to the 805 timetable which could be why no one showed route hopping in previews! I honestly hope I’m proved wrong about this.