Route Wcml Trent Valley: Milton Keynes - Crewe Add-on Feedback Thread

If you’re routed into a platform on greens then the 30mph shouldn’t be there in game as it should be line speed which as stated, is a bug.

Can I ask for a headcode/scenario or even a photo of where this happens so I can have some clarity that we’re talking about the same location please? I’m not disputing the bug, more the insinuation that there should be an advance warning board because they’re not always provided at some locations on the real railway

 

1G40: Liverpool Lime Street to Birmingham New Street
Xbox Series X - reduced timetable
Service keeps crashing, video memory usage error occurs x2 occasions of trying

 

PS5 player. (Sorry for the long post)

I really like this route. It’s well detailed and I’ve not really had any blurry textures even with the full timetable and all layers on. I’ve only done a few runs on the 350/4 since purchasing. The braking characteristics and sounds are decent.

Although the Crewe - Stafford section doesn’t seem to be a complete copy and paste from B2C, because the neutral section at Whitmore has been added and the AWS that were missing on the two signals south of Crewe now work (On the Up Fast at least!), I’m a bit disappointed that the signal sequence for arriving into platform 1 at Stafford from the Up Fast hasn’t been corrected from B2C. If the route has been set for P1 you should get flashing yellows beforehand. (I mentioned this in the feedback section for B2C in the hope it might be spotted and corrected)

There are also a considerable number of AWS bell/horn missing along the route that I have encountered so far:-
NL 5480/ NL 5462/ KR 3304/ KR 3300/ KR 3275/ KR 3277/ LS 5537/ LS 3585/ NL 5441/ NL 5461/ SC3607 all missing.

The 350’s are regulated and cannot exceed 110mph but I have gone above that. It seems to be the case with all the 350 variants that are in the game.

I’ve read feedback about the mystery 30mph speed limit approaching Nuneaton platform 5 on the Up Slow. The speed limit should apply only if routed onto the Up Relief at the points, not to continue on the Up Slow which remains at 75mph in that section. I encountered this too and it is an error!

The other feedback I saw was about the reduction from 75mph to 60mph on the Up Slow approaching Rugby. This is correct and doesn’t require a warning board/ AWS as it is not a 30% or greater reduction in speed, and even if you cross over from the Up Fast at Newbold Junction, the crossover speed is also 75mph.

The 350s I have driven have all been 12 cars. The 350s were usually 8 cars with a few 12 cars at the weekend. Though the length of a 12 car 350 is similar to that of a 10 car 730 which are used at present on the Crewe - Euston so perhaps that’s why they have decided to run 12 cars.

I really like the UDS feature that locks the doors out of use for coaches that don’t fit at stations with short platforms. - A nice touch!

I also like that the couple of LNWR runs I’ve done northbound have been pathed slightly differently. For example, approaching Nuneaton, One got flashing yellows for Attleborough South Junction to cross onto the Down Slow (the usual path). The other time I got greens to continue on the Down Fast and then brought down to a red to cross over at Nuneaton South Junction. Both services went in to Platform 2. - another nice touch.
Like others, one of these services which I think was 1U24 began encountering double yellows from Lichfield all the way back to Crewe with no trains in the sections ahead. Hopefully this can be sorted!

I’ve seen plenty of AI freight and passenger services with really brings the route to life. But I’ve seen very little in the way of passengers! Although if it’s the pesky passengers that cause the blurry issues then I’m happy to leave them out.

I’m not sure if the missing AWS will be fixed as I don’t think they managed to sort them in B2C. But fingers crossed.

Overall I think it’s a great route and very enjoyable. Very highly detailed and I’d say a big well done to the developers. I’d love to see All Aboard do MK - Birmingham but I totally understand that they might want to step away from WCML and do something different.

I’m yet to try the 807, 805, or Pendolino but as a PS5 player I’m happy with the route and would recommend it. So far so good!

 

The service was 1U28 and the location was just north of Nuneaton on the Up Slow, running into the station throat. I know that advance warnings are not always provided for speed restrictions (usually where there is only a small reduction though). However in this case there was neither speed or advance board, it just showed in the HUD for about 100 yards or so then reverted to the 75 MPH. So it looks as if the track property on that section (if it’s done similar to TSC) has somehow picked up the erroneous speed from somewhere.

Hope that helps!

 

I’ve just done run from Rugby to crew, not even the full journey get into Crewe And the game crashes I don’t think it likes it when I use the free External camera Inside Crewe Station headcode number is 2U19 it’s the service that comes from Northampton and starts at rugby towards Crewe the service that’s starts at 05:41 and I’m going playing on PS5 has anyone else receive crashes when using the free external camera when Stationary and it’s on the full timetable If it carries on Crashing I’m gonna have to use the reduced timetable

 

Most likely a core game issue but the 350/4 random fault door issues are absolutely ridiculous. Every station from Crewe down to MKC there was a random fault issue - sometimes both upon door opening and door closing!

 

I found myself stuck on this road in free roam. Have run the service and got stuck at the stop board. There is a turnout hidden behind a signal in the map. You have to get out of the cab and walk down to it and switch it manually. Hope this helps!

 

Not sure if this is a bug, as I'm not 100% on UK signs. There's a 100 board about 13 miles south of Rugby on the down, and whilst driving a class 350, it doesn't register, so I can continue to do 110. Is that by design? If it is, I'm guessing it's because there's still 115 MU boards that the 350 uses (but the train is obviously maxed out at 110), even though the 100 board in question is standalone?

 

I've done a couple of 350/4 services, and they were 12 carriage sets which isn't prototypical for Crewe services as they are always 8 carriage sets outside of peak hours.
The only downside to the rest of the 350 subclasses layering into the route is that all the various subclasses work every service that each subclass is tied to so it would of been nice to see the other subclasses do the different services instead of the ones they are tied to just to add a bit more variety to the game play.

 

Can we get a list of what will be fixed in the next update?

I would very much like to see the signalling issues resolved. The unnecessary 2 yellows and the incorrect junction turnout sequences being fixed would definitely improve this route.

 

I’ve also encountered the odd “right side” AWS failures, either horn at a green or random horn with no ramp evident. Unfortunately at 110 or 125 MPH it’s hard to specify the locations, well one was just around Lichfield City on the Down Fast and another on the Up somewhere around Hilmorton.

 

Well, this is terrifying haha.

Seen at DIRFT on the PS5.

 

Should all the 807 jobs non stop to Milton Keynes.

 

It does seem that AABS have struggled with the signalling side of it all. Am aware of a couple of signals that don’t have magnets associated with them.

 

Platform: PC
Service: 1F26 L.E to L.L.S Journey Mode

Not sure if this is something I've accidentally activated, but I set the speed limiter and since doing that every few seconds the HMI turns off and I have to click the screen to get it to come back on.Then it'll go off a few seconds later

 

I just done night now is just me or is this route really dark I mean you donr see light pollution or anything.

 

Agreed. I had one just south of Kilsby Tunnel on the Up and it made me spill my tea and drop my biscuits!

 

Yes think I commented a page or two back, the night lighting is unimpressive. Never mind the ambient light which we know seems to be beyond DTG to sort out in TSW, there just seems to be no illumination anywhere - buildings, street lamps etc. Even the stations seem dingy. More like a TSW3 route in that respect and certainly disappointing after the lighting on display in Medway Valley or the Czech route.

 

I’ve played around shunting a 350 around Rugby in Free Roam. Pleased to say that the Bi Di signalling is quite accurate so far. Well done for the extra attention to detail.

I’d like to add that the ‘calling at’ feature on this route is another simple yet understated addition. Why this hasn’t been implemented as part of the core game is baffling.

As a driver you will always be presented with your diagram beforehand so you know where you are stopping.

I’ve spent hours on previous DLC selecting a service just to see the stopping pattern.

Thank you for adding this

 

I got to the bottom of the strange signalling sequences (sort of)

It looks like routes just aren’t being cleared far enough ahead, which is why you are getting the constant double yellow (YY) aspects in places.

I confirmed this at Rugeley Trent Valley platform where after receiving consecutive YY aspects, all of a sudden LS5541 is green and that has been a constant during each service I’ve played on the slows.

However, by having the signal aspects on the HUD and “flying out” on the camera I could see the signal aspects stepping up each time so there were single yellow aspects too.

Now we just need a fix!

 

I fear that particular fix ain’t coming any time soon!

 

Anyone else got a issue with Aws on this route, like you don't get the audible alarm when you approach a yellow signal?
(I'm on PS5 by the way)

 

Yeah this is happening to me as well.

 

On The class 805 the service 1083 London Euston To Holyhead the service start at 09:34 I tried playing it. It doesn’t spawn in the train it’s spawns the player To another location not on the train if you see what I mean I’m playing on The full timetable and I’m playing on PS5