Out Now Wcml: Crewe - Preston: Out Now!

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  1. dtg_jan

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    Travel back to the 1980s with the latest Train Sim World 6 add-on courtesy of Just Trains!

    Store Pages:
    PlayStation EU
    PlayStation US
    Xbox EU
    Xbox US
    Steam Store

    Epic Games

    Approximate release times: 1000 BST PlayStation & Xbox, 1600 BST Epic Games, 1600 BST Steam

    Route and Trains Summary
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    The more eagle-eyed of the TSW community will have spotted the Crewe - Preston coming soon article that appeared here towards the end of last week. Do check it out if you missed it because it contains a whole wealth of solid information on what you can expect from this amazing route. Looking for more? You can also check out Just Trains' in-depth development blog here, complete with a pdf copy of the manual! More info than you can shake a stick at!

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    It's 1986. David Bowie can transform into an owl, Tom Cruise is feeling the need for speed, and Mick Dundee is showing off his big knife. Over in Britain meanwhile, the West Coast Main Line between Crewe and Preston is humming with energy. This is one of Britain's hardest working stretches of railway, a corridor where freight and express passenger workings never stay still for long.

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    Train Sim World® 6: West Coast Main Line: Crewe - Preston is out now for Xbox Series X|S, PlayStation 5, Epic Games Store, and Steam for £29.99/€35.99/$39.99.

    Please note that West Coast Main Line: Crewe - Preston will be released on PC and 9th Gen Console platforms only.

    Just Trains Interview
    Want to learn more about the making of West Coast Main Line: Crewe - Preston?

    Train Sim World Ambassador TINTIN_57 sits down with Tom from Just Trains to discuss the route's development, the research behind recreating the 1986 West Coast Main Line, and some of the challenges and stories from bringing this classic railway to Train Sim World.

    It's the perfect companion piece for anyone looking to go behind the scenes and learn more about the route's creation.



    Known Issues
    We are aware of an issue affecting several Rail Journey chapters where players may spawn on foot rather than in the intended train cab.
    Fixes for these issues are being investigated and we will share further updates when available.

    Preview Livestream

    If you missed seeing the route in action, you can check out the developer previous stream hosted by Just Trains' Tom and Mark right here:


    Yet to upgrade to TSW6?
    WCML: Crewe - Preston is an Add-on for Train Sim World 6. Not yet on the latest version? There are several ways to upgrade.

    Deluxe Edition

    Upgrading via Train Sim World 6: Deluxe Edition will give you access to three brand new routes: Riviera Line, Morristown Line and Leipzig-Dresden.

    Find out more about Train Sim World 6 by following @trainsimworld on Twitter/X, Instagram, Threads, Facebook, YouTube, Twitch, and TikTok.
     
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  2. MarkCovz4761

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    Cant find it on xbox
     
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    It's there now
     
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    Thanks
     
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    Your welcome
     
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    Oh dear. I feared as much. This is really becoming endemic now, puts me off buying any route until it gets solved. Shame, as I'm looking forward to this one.
     
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    Yeah, let's be honest. We all knew this was going to happen. Their answers weren't very convincing at all. I bet they didn't even test anything on consoles.
    Also, I don't want to say this but someone at either Dovetail (more likely) or JustTrains are incompetent or liars, because they said they didn't have any reports of blurriness on this route.
    Last edit: I don't care if it's not feedback, it's important to let everyone know about what kind of company you are Dovetail! I will keep replying even if you keep deleting my post!
     
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  8. dtg_jan

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    hb#8271

    I can see that you contiune to post the above message in the feedback thread, despite our ask to please keep it to feedback only. You are free to discuss this topic and share your opinion, but please do so in the appropriate spaces.

    Thank you.
     
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    No reports if no one tested it! TBH I’m still sceptical about what the PC experIence will deliver. Watching the final part of the stream going along to Bickershaw Colliery, the juddering and outright pauses were very evident. We need to keep a close eye on the Feedback thread, which appears to be getting very heavily moderated to shuffle the bad news elsewhere, to take a balance view on purchasing later.
     
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    Yeah, they are deleting my messages even when they contain an actual feedback report now! I REALLY DISLIKE Dovetail.
     
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  11. OldVern

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    To be fair Jan, it’s still feedback if indirect and the feedback thread is the first place people will look to get a view of whether or not to jump in and buy with both feet on Day One.
     
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    Anyway, I'll report this here then:
    Sorry, why did my last message get deleted? I reported blurry textures on my PS5 by the time I reached Weaver Junction, Crewe to Preston, morning, 86/4, light clouds. Thank you.
     
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  13. OldVern

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    If the PS5 is struggling, then my potato PC certainly will. Mind, it’s not surprising, looking at the stream when Matt zoomed in on the grass they seem to have modelled it down to the individual seed ears on every blade or stem. That’s going to kill performance on the best system. I always maintained the sound squelching and stuttering on Shap was down to the insane amount of detailed hi res foliage, now they have added it to Blackpool Branches and this new route.

    Just because you can make it, doesn’t mean filling every gap with it when people want good FPS driving past at 80 MPH…
     
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    I think the problem is that this game is very poorly optimised. In fact, I have found that by opening the "spawn new train" menu, it takes up memory space even when it's closed. This stacks up and if you keep opening and closing it, you'll get a memory crash. It's funny to see, honestly, because I assume it means once a UI is loaded it never really gets unloaded from memory. I don't know where else to report this though. I don't know if it could help with blurriness either.
     
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  15. dtg_jan

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    This message was posted three times, containing no feedback or reports. I removed it to ensure a streamlined feedback thread.
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    The fourth attempt in quick succession to post the above message, as I can see now, does have an additional line reporting blurry textures on PlayStation 5 at the end, but to be fair Vern, at that point I was under the assumption that it would be just the same message again. I'm happy to un-delete that message.

    We have always been very open about welcoming critique, and instead of permanently removing hb's first message I moved it to the discussion thread (here) so the discussion can continue.
    Again, no issue with the content of the message, just that it wasn't in the right place, that is all.

    All the best,
    Jan
     
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  16. hb#8271

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    Jan, take a look at my previous message in this thread. It might be something to report to the team if they're not aware.
     
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    Fantastic route the coal loading and unloading is terrific fantastic to hear Tom's voice in tutorials well done just trains absolutely worth day 1 purchase
     
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    Patience required it's a biggy, around 16Gb on my Xbox!
     
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    Looking at the feedback report, this is yet another rough launch! I feel especially sorry for Xbox players because at least on PS5 you can actually drive the route even if it's all blurry!
     
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    It's not 'all blurry' on PS5 at all. I havent seen any yet and have been playing since it was released.
     
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    Well... Guess we must be playing on very different games then! Unless you don't have all the layers active. Because I do. And I'm not the only one having issues either. Maybe you're just lucky! Good for you!
     
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    all aboard put in a load of optimisation work, there’s still blurring. JT, who’ve previously avoided blurring for the most part are caught out this time. at this point there’s little any third party can do except wait an eternity for dtg to fix this calamity
     
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    That's true of many of the "cool" new features in DTG. Just because you CAN doesn't mean it's a great idea, especially if it hampers performance to be overdetailed. However, on the other side you will get people saying "But I need that level of detail or I don't get my immersion!"

    Sometimes you can't win.
     
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    Did see some light blurs now on the dash during a high speed service with the 86. I have seen worse, but it's there.
     
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    What systems/platforms are people using?
    I see a lot of people mentioning XBox problems.
    Unfortunately I'm not a "person of the future" so am not out of work yet in order to try it myself =-)
     
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    This was my stream Yesterday Morning. I started it at 25 minutes as I was faffing about with bit slol.

    PC specs

    CPU Intel Core i9 10850K
    1TB SSD
    Memory 32 gb DDR4
    GPU Nvidia Geforce RTX 3060 12gb GDDR6
    8tb External HDD
    300gb External HDD

    https://www.youtube.com/live/cEsWSm9HVO4?si=ybhj8Rnk_1SIycEj&t=1500

    Had a feeling the PS5 version was going to suffer :(

    46 minutes into my stream on the normal PS5 the blurry textures appeared and practically stayed with me for the rest of the stream.



    need to turn my mic audio down :(
     
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    Dont get me wrong but its a fantastic route, it ticks all my boxes but with the current issues on the Consoles its a complete let down.
     
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    It wont work on xbox when you select to go to Crewe to Preston it says error then goes off
     
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    Really sorry but whatever team you got looking at the core issues of the game to stop the blurry texture clearly don’t know what they doing. Other games on consoles don’t have this issue so why is it on Train sim world. Honestly sort it out!
     
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    I have blurs on the high speed services, no issues on the stoppers, coal loading, shunting etcetera (on PS5). So not perfect, but somehow they seem to be closer to a solution than on other routes: Birmingham Crewe and Stuttgart-Heilbronn were worse. On NY-Stamford and Medway it does work, maybe the devs should learn more lessons from those routes.
     
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    That's because they can't fix it but obviously can't admit it
     
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    Driving 2D35 - Manchester Victoria to Chester.
    After Earlestown the AWS triggers and can't be turned off.

    Resetting doesn't help, the pacer keeps coming to a halt.
    The AWS in question was before signal WN546.
     
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    Wait until they start banning you for a week….
     
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    …who then ignore them because they don’t have the capability to fix the issue!
     
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    Speaking from experience?
     
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    That wouldn't surprise me if it happened, but honestly? I wouldn't really care. It's not like I post often on the forums. Just when things start to REALLY get on my nerves. And blurry textures and crashes that keep happening for like three years at this point with a promised fix which we don't know what it is, when it's coming and IF it's even coming (unlikely, in my opinion) is something that starts getting just slightly on my nerves.
    One thing is for sure though: I am not buying anything else that's released for this game, whether it is from DTG or a third party, until they've fixed these issues and I have proof from actual players that it's fixed. (So, most likely never)
     
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    Do you post when you're happy too? Or only negative?
     
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    Damn. I thought PC would be immune to some of the nonsense happening on other hardware.
     
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    I have already flagged this as a possible issue in one of the other threads and JT are denying it should be an issue. But I'm not convinced. Filling a route with detailed vegetation is not the wisest move for optimisation and the aesthetics need to be balanced with performance, particularly for consoles and less powerful PC's.
     
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    I almost did that on a run to Latchford sidings! :D
     
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    I don't post when I'm happy... Because this game has never made me happy in the past three years. Just disappointed. When I was happy I used to post TSW videos on my YouTube channel, before all the blurry issues and everything.
     
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    That's NSFW content, give them some privacy, please! :D
     
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    At this point it will probably take a full core rebuild in order to fix the blurry textures.

    I await the next version of train simulator.

    Then we probably have 3-4 years before that one starts to have issues.
     
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    Not a single thing in three years?
    Why do you play it then?
    Find your joy mate.
     
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    At this point I await Project Helix like the desert awaits the rain. Don't think anything other than that will fix this.
     
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    Maybe it is time to finally consider more options of resolution for consoles right now we have only HD or 4K what about 1440p? IMHO Xbox series X by design (forget advertising) has no chance to perform well (like 50-60fps) over 3K.
     
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    Also grass and vegetation make up a very small part of the texture pool and culling some wouldn't change how often blurred textures would appear on consoles which seems to be the primary issue rather than performance on PS5 and hadn't been reported in QA testing.

    How much QA testing is actually done on a PS5 ?
     
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    I'm NOT changing my system's resolution everytime I launch a different game. Dynamic resolution scaling is a feature that is utilized in hundreds of games, and with a simple in-game toggle could possibly help with some of these issues. Won't change the fact that the newer routes are running on the brink of what's technically possible system-wise, and open-ended structure of the content loaded due to vaious layers players have and can toggle on and off makes this system fall over way too often nowadays. These consoles are going to be six years old in 5 months. Can't wait for next-gen due to playing a lot of TSW.
     
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    Does anyone have a list of services that appear on PC but not consoles? If anyone could respond to this it would be really helpful :D.

    Loving the route, it’s my favourite to train spot on. I’m sitting in arpley signal box right now lol just watching the trains go by. It’s a great route and I understand the need to cut down on consoles to get the best experience out of it :).
     

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