Wcml Preston To Crewe Discussion

Can you remember which 7T75 this was? There's a few across the day.

EDIT: Silly me, I didn't think to just check when 7F25 runs! It's the midday time.

 

Just checked, it's the 12:09 one. Whilst you're on the way to the power station you can see 7F25 on the map being brought up to Latchford siding 3 before the engine does a run around and then brings it down to the power station.

 

Just noticed the Stratford (white roof) class 47 isn’t showing a drivable. Is this just on Ai services?

 

It's random as to whether you get it, I thought as it's more a variation of BR Blue that I'd make it number based like the other variations.

 

9K03 (Class 47/3) is a great one for getting a look around the scenery - limited to 35mph as you have unbraked wagons!

 

Question for JT Benedict, why wasn't the 31 included in the timetable, you couldn't go 30 mins without seeing one in Preston running either local stoppers or freight back in the mid 80s.

 

Early morning 0700 approximately.

 

I also noticed this. I'm not sure what JT did but I'm a big fan of the fact that blurring was restricted to a few small areas in cab instead of the whole thing downgrading, whatever optimisations they made should be shared with other devs until the whole issue is sorted.

 

I don't know if this is wrong or i understand the british Signals wrong.
On the Picture shows the right signal green and the left red. As im on the left track, shouldn't be the other way around?
This is on the way to fiddlers ferry, the signal before was also left signal red, right one green.

 

JT Benedict - Is it intended that the timetables of the three (and soon, four) JT routes be synchronised so that when spawning at Preston or Carlisle, any timetabled trains that traverse the routes have continuity? I realise that it's not possible to keep the exact same stock, but the services in each timetable are consistent so that one may continue a service onwards on a different route.

 

Is there any way to get these 47/3s working in tandem? I'm dual-headed for the railtour (with 2x 20s on the rear) but only one 47 is pulling.

 

JT Benedict I’m not sure of this thread or the feedback thread is the best to say this but I’ll try here first as you’ve commented on this one earlier today.

With regard my saying here and on the stream last week about the 47/3 not saying max speed 75mph I’ll be the first to hold my hands up and say I have gotten it very slightly wrong with that.

I had thought it was late 70s into the early 80s that this happened but after speaking to some ex Tinsley Depot staff I know on FB they have confirmed it was late 80s around ‘87 that they had the max speed dropped from 95 to 75 after having different brake blocks fitted and to try and save on wear and tear of the freight locos.

Please accept my apologies for causing any confusion on this issue.

 

Found a bug that prevents you complete service 7T77 parkside col to fiddlers P.S there is an 08 parked in the siding you are booked into preventing you from fully entering the siding. stops you getting a platinum score due to stopping accuracy.

 

I'll be conducting a south bound Class 87 run down to Crewe later on this evening, so will report back any further feedback from that to what I've already posted. And will see if running the route twice makes the route play smoother by establishing a cache of memory. (PS5).

 

Early meme-based impressions are in.

 

Yeah we got some good information off someone saying similar.

Seems like the /0's also received that change too.

 

I’ve ran it 5 or 6 times now and I wouldn’t say frame rate is improved. Still some pretty long freezes and heavy stuttering around Warrington in particular. Crewe as well although bizarrely without the blurring as much.

PS5

 

47/3's can't work in multi, the reason the 47/4 is in the consist (If you own Preston - Carlisle) is to provide train heat.

 

Just got my first CTD (ever on PC but admittedly I’ve only been on the platform for 8 months).

approaching Warrington in the 86/4, service 1P38 (18:42). Said something about renaming an object, texture2d_2146921809 being “on top” of another object with a very long line of text that ends in “SmallDisplayBoard_2.dynamic

not sure how helpful that will be but i sent the report regardless.

Shame as i was on my way back from Euston having gone down from Carlisle earlier this afternoon. This aside, it’s been an incredible day on this game and one I’ve wanted for a very long time. Not sure I have the motivation now to starts again from Crewe to finish my journey back to Carlisle but, another day maybe.

Side note but I was ready to firmly decide that Crewe-Preston was my favourite route in the game until I revisited Shap this morning. It’s close but I think Crewe Preston is gonna be second to Shap. Not sure that route will ever be beaten

 

We've been getting a few reports all pointing to the destination boards.

What's weird is they're the same ones we've used since Blackpool but only now are they causing crashes.

 

That's the error i got when i got a CTD on one of the coal services. Has only happened once so far thankfully.

A few bugs here and there but this is actually my favorite of JT's routes so far. I'm a freight guy, though, so i could see it being less exciting for passenger-only players.

But, for me, following the different coal services across the map from the colliery to the power plant, and back again has been the best fun i've had in TSW in a long time.

 

1M47 from Journey Mode is nice.

Starts off from Preston in twilight which then goes to night, allowing you to appreciate the nice job JT have done with lighting on the route.

It's the first train to be diverted via Newton Le Willows for the T3 on the main line, which I took very steady as all the junctions are approach controlled. Consequently I was 11' late at Warrington and, getting going again, started getting signal checks as there is a 9K02 now in front of me, 35 MPH freight as I lost my path.

So interesting run (I have just passed Acton Bridge before finishing for the night) though really 9K02 should be pathed off to the slow line ASAP.

 

It won’t improve, UE4 on console pre-compiles your shaders.

It’s a shame to see various 3P & DTG staff alluding otherwise, lack of understanding of fundamentals like this are likely why we see so many console issues.

 

Done a Class 87 service on a South bound, non stop Glasgow to Euston run and found more peculiar blurring behaviours...

Adding to my previous post about peculiar inconsistent blurriness, I found another peculiar type of blurring with the Class 87. For the entirety of the journey the internal textures, gauges, and buttons didn't blur and completely avoided any type of blurring textures... Apart from one thing, the internal locomotive number that is displayed on the driver roof above the window, that was the only thing that blurred internally, which is peculiar to say the least. Much like with the Class 86/4 the type of blurring I was experiencing in the cab is not the usual type of blurring I've had on other routes, which is always consistent blurriness that affects everything you see from the entirety of the cab, gauges, and also includes the external detail on the train itself. What I'm finding with the blurriness on this route, and the 86/4 & 87 is that it only effects particular parts of the train, which is unusual and not the type of blurriness behaviour that I have experienced before. I'd usually expect the entirety of the cab to be affected, but it's not. In the case of the 87, 95% of the cab textures remained, it was only the internal locomotive number that was affected and on the outside of the train itself. With the 86/4 it only affected the wording underneath the buttons and outside of the train, but 95% of the cab remained fine. I just find it unusual compared to the type of blurring we usually get in the game.

Also another piece of feedback is that the Class 87 sounds are so warped and affected by lag on this particular route that is has a large impact on the sound quality and is worse then what was happening on Preston to Carlisle (which was on a very small scale). The 87 hasn't been modified as far as I'm aware so I have no idea what could be making it sounds like a deflating bag pipe with the lag.

I don't know if it will help at all, in terms of the blurriness feedback, but I'd be interested to know why the blurring behaviour is acting differently here.

Regardless of all of the above, I still managed to really enjoy my run down to Crewe non stop. The pace of driving and changing scenery is superb.

(PS5)

 

Anyone having issues with not getting credit for the 1st level mastery reward after completing a shunting timetable? I've done two shunting runs from the Class 08 timetable, and have yet to get credit.

 

just to add my two cents… suffered a CTD from the situation you described, the UE error when I ran it through Gemini stated is was from a conflict with a destination board access violation… I submitted the report to UE but should have copied and submitted here.

 

Great detailed post. Just to add on what you have said for XSX, I have also noticed that the in-cab textures are not really getting blurred, save for the vehicle number as you have described. The rest of my train typically degrades to a true blur fest pretty quickly though. Also enjoying the route but there are some major issues here.

 

This is PS5. 5 mins into a 2 hour scenario

 

No, no problem. Just read the instructions carefully—not all shunting operations are suitable.

 

I did have a CTD due to destination boards on Blackpool branches when it came out, but it never happen again afterwards so idk. But it was an issue there too. Reported it to you on the TSC discord back when it happend (16th of november 2023) as you asked if others had the same issue.

 

Save game and load back in. That works for me on ps5

 

Oh forgot to add the screenshot i took about not being able to fully pull into the siding on service 7T77.

 

Would need to check what the track layout is ahead of the signal but this is correct I believe. Normally the signal would be placed to the LH side of the running line it applies to if there's room, or directly above the route it applies to if on a gantry, but there are occasions where it would be placed differently for sighting reasons depending on how easy it is to see that signal on approach in that specific location. As the line is not bidirectional, it should be clear that it applies to the LH track and not the RH track. On the former Great Western, it was quite common to place signals on the RH side to aid sighting where necessary, especially since the GWR stuck with cabs set up for drivers on the RH side on its locomotives.

As for how to read this semaphore junction signal, the tallest (in this case the RH arm) is the main route, and the arm on a shorter post is the diverging route. So this signal is saying that the route is clear for straight on. Additionally, the shorter arm on the LH signal is a 'shunt' signal used for a route into a siding.

 

I'm playing on PC and the route is very good, however I'm having some problems:

- Passengers are not showing up at stations in Preston and Crewe, and in Crewe, on one of the platforms, they were crowded together in one place;
- Even after clearing the Shader Cache and playing the route multiple times, I still experience significant stuttering throughout the route, regardless of location, which somewhat detracts from the smoothness.

 

For comparison, how does Preston-Carlisle run on your machine?

 

Like this?

 

JT Benedict - is there any chance of the Pacer passenger announcements being added at some point? Still hoping they'll come to Preston-Carlisle as well.

 

Yes that's the plan, other things are taking priority at the moment though.

 

Blurry textures and crashes on north bound services from Crewe on the ps5 version and Automatically crashes on the approach to Preston station. Works fine on the south bound run

 

Right there