Train Sim World 7 - Discussion

It’s that time of year again. Oh boy.

Now, to make it clear, this is NOT a duplicate of the “Tsw7 what do you want” thread, while it sounds similar.

this thread is solely based on discussing TSW7, not for wanting so and so.

As we near the time of TSW7s announcement, I thought it’d be appropriate to create a separate thread just discussing on TSW7 as a whole and separating the two threads.


now, back to TSW7.

Train fest, an event on steam is coming up, this event here, is a PERFECT opportunity to announce TSW7, considering TSW6 was also announced at the same time (mid july)


Anyway, fire away the discussions, and don’t be afraid to make this thread a watch party for the announcement of TSW7 in around August time.

 

I just wonder what leaks or goof-ups will come around this time. Last year the funniest occurence was when an official TSW6 artwork could be easily accessed by changing the digit in an online hosted marketing image file.

 

TSW7 will be the last version of TSW as we know it. They'll dump out the remaining DLC and then next year it will be 'Train Sim World' just like TSC. No number versions and UE5

 

If only!

 

Not to be a downer, but I could not care less about "TSW n+1". I do not foresee any additions or changes coming to the game that would actually matter to me. New routes? Meh. I don't need more UK/US/GER routes that are basically the same as the others except in a slightly different location. It's all starting to look the same to me. I'm tepidly waiting for a good sale on Liberec, and I might grab Tadami eventually if it ever actually comes out.

Though since I have Running Train to play now, my interest in Tadami has waned significantly as the TSW offering would just be a worse performing, stuttering, hitching mess just like everything else in TSW.

If the core game issues ever actually get fixed then I'll have a reason to continue playing and spending seriously. As of now, I won't even bother grabbing the free upgrade. I've only been playing since TSW 3 and I'm just burnt out. I don't know how people continue with this as long as they have. I'm less a train enthusiast and more a sim enjoyer of all kinds, so maybe that's a factor.

 

I think whatever the issues in Train Sim World's core are, it's long since too late to fix.

Much like course correction on a ship, TSW2 or TSW3 would have been the time to really dig in and fix the issues that were starting to rear their heads, now we are a month or two away from TSW7 and the ship is too large to quickly correct it's course.

The problem is too large and seems to be affected by so many different variables that no one really knows *what* to fix, each attempt seems to fix one thing and break 2 more things and the only *real* way to fix the problem is to abandon TSW, take all the learnings they've claimed to have picked up along the way and start anew, properly, in UE5. Hell even if they redid TSW in UE4 but properly instead of the learning as you go style that DTG tool the first time around.

There's nowhere else to go but a new game on a new engine - TSW as we know it is unfixable and as proven by DTG trying to fix it for now long now?

 

As with TSW6, I'll only get 7 if one (or ideally at least two) of the core routes interest me - none of the DLCs on the roadmap do.

I also have to factor the fact I don't play TSW much nowadays simply because I don't have the time, juggling work and working on my preserved buses - what little computer time I do get is rarely spent in TSW partly because I just go into the menu and decide I can't be bothered, and do something else.

 

Then we can start new threads saying how much worse UE5 is than UE4 and the whole cycle will begin again, i can't wait for it to happen, I'll bring the popcorn.

 

It's the un-official, official thread, the other 400 TSW7 UE5 threads have moved to far down the front page for people to see, so a new 1 spawned automatically.

 

Tis past its sell by date,"Do not be afraid to move forward,be afraid to stand still"

 

Unlike the previous two rounds, I might just get the free starter pack and play existing DLC until I know if the new routes are worth it (Riviera line was, but only after the first patches). The first sale for the deluxe edition of TSW 6 came soon enough to wait for that. In the meantime, plenty left to play.

 

Assuming TSW7 will be a thing, as I commented in the other thread my hot take:

This may be the first year I just take the free update and wait for the DLC pack to go on a deep sale. I found the route choice for TSW6 very lacklustre, even Riviera despite being much requested was set in the ultra modern era and a total borefest with near silent IET’s and the still flawed ex Rivet 150’s. It should have been set at the height of BR Classic, either early 70’s with hydraulics or early to mid 80’s with the 50’s and Paxman HST’s. Not to mention the much more complex infrastructure.

 

What you described for Riviera mid eighties would have been my dream route. Much as I like the modern route, the main landmark for Newton Abbot (The race course) is completely missing.

I'll be doing the same this year. Free upgrade then the rest will be discounted soon enough if I want it. I have fast internet but I'm tired of reinstalling everything year after year.

 

If the never-ending story with blurry textures and frequent crashes on consoles isn't resolved, I'll just download the starter pack. I don't want to pay for more blurry and poorly functioning content.

 

I really hope during that survey, the most requested thing was a massive overhaul of optimisation.

if it’s a common thing for DTG to choose what features will be in the next game from the yearly survey, then we absolutely have the power next time to make that happen.

next annual survey, I will be voting for a massive overhaul to the core and optimisation of the game.

 

Same here. Blurry textures have saved me nearly £200 to date.

If DTG dont want my money, fine. Just hope more console owners get onboard the not buying broken LOVE as its the only chance we have of DTG actually trying to fix it

 

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Are you aware of the fact that the guys from AABS gave you a "shoutout" on Youtube a while ago? Refering to you as "that guy on forums who wants everything to be set in the past."

 

As much as I'm sure there is some fantastic stuff coming in TSW7 route wise (which I've seen alluded to by third parties), it's pretty much wasted on me atleast until optimisations and blurring can be drastically improved.

Last year I opted for the free version, and I think I'll do the same again this year until I see drastic improvements across the board.

I think we are seeing progress with optimisations as can be seen in MVL, but from DTGs behalf they are very slow, and I did feel disappointed as last years TSW6 was hidden behind a pay wall for some with promises of further optimisation only coming with that, only to find out those intense optimisations only really come further down the line with MVL/SEHS, which were done by Firefly (who done a fantastic job), but haven't been retrofitted to other routes.

I'll sit on the fence now until...

 

Although the blurry text issues came in before TSW6, the included routes managed to avoid it. However, every route since has had some sort of performance issues, so I wonder if TSW7 will even be a viable option for console users. Time is running out to fix the blurry textures before its likely release.

 

Well I’m not the only one and actually quite proud of the fact I’m a senile old dinosaur!

 

best thing about senility is every day is a new adventure

 

Apologies, let me clarify further; I took a free update; But some had further improvements hidden behind a pay wall who weren't existing TSW5 owners.

 

I'll certainly get the free upgrade at least. I'll only get the paid upgrade if I'm REALLY excited about the routes as I was for Riviera Line. I've not bought any DLC since because of the issues, particularly blurring. I'm considering buying Thames Branches as the lack of layers might mean that blurring is not an issue. In any case the Marlow Branch at least is special to me.

 

If TSW7 does not do significant improvements to the core, or fix longstanding bugs and if the routes showcased aren’t good and buggy. I’ll quite happily just get the free core upgrade.

if customers are not satisfied with what they’re given, they should vote with their wallets. And with this game, that’s never been more true.

it’s clear that third parties have their priorities straight.

 

What system are you on? Have you considered getting Medway Valley? It has zero issues for me on PS5.

 

No, I'm sorry if it wasn't clear. What I meant was some who hadn't gone over to TSW5 already (because of how it was probably the worst edition in the series to date and had decided to stick with TSW4), had to pay to to go over to TSW6 and most likely did so because of the promises of improvement. (Unless I was misunderstood, and the upgrade was available to those who owned all editions of previous TSW titles)

I already had TSW6, so took the free option and upgraded (this is one thing DTG got right was the free upgrade system)...

But regardless the improvements that are most noticeable still haven't got on top of blurring and optimisation as much as I thought they might have.

 

if DTG want a smooth experience for their players, if DTG want third parties to achieve more, if DTG wants more players playing the game, at smoother frame rates and less ram usage, they should be doing DRASITC improvements to the core of TSW7.

I don’t think I’m the only person who wants this, but I would be much happier with a stable game over new features.

 

To be honest, TSW 7 is really no different from TSW 5 or TSW 6!

In particular, those new features that DTG always promise in the new versions either don’t work at all or are buggy. And has DTG even bothered to keep developing these features or to get them to work?

And with TSW 6, the extension of the Dresden–Riesa line to the Dresden–Leipzig line wasn’t exactly a great job either. In my view, the route was simply thrown together in a hurry just so they could have a German route. Similarly, the shunting locomotive in the Deluxe version was a complete joke.

It would be best if DTG didn’t release TSW 7, but instead continued to optimise TSW 6 and finally fixed the many bugs we’ve been getting with this year’s DTG updates.
They should also overhaul the passenger system, because, firstly, it’s long overdue, and, secondly, since a DTG update, we’ve suddenly been seeing almost no passengers at stations on many routes.

And if TSW 7 does come out, I’ll only be taking the free upgrade.

 

The thing anyone has already noticed is the reduced amount of DTG content in TSW6's lifecycle.
We got 2 routes, 1 loco and 1 gp since the release which is comparing to TSW 5 (5 routes, 2 locos, 4 gp's) less than half the amount.
This is also noticeable on the Roadmap which now has not a single DTG item on it.

Now the question is what DTG does with the spare time?
Developing the core content for TSW 7 but now with extra long/detailed routes, all 3 countrys equally represented and all optimized to work well on Gen 9?
Or did the focus shift to large performance updates and bug fixing? (Problem is not the enitre dev team is specialised for this work)
As it will take some more years until a UE5 game is realistic to release, maybe they do a final major change to gameplay introducing TOD5 now that Gen 8 is hopefully dropped?

 

The only reason DTG keep re-releasing the same game with a number change is to keep it relevant and not get sidelined in charts and online stores, they don't push old games to people as hard as new games, so basically money, they like to dress it up as a new version with new features, but internally very little has changed since they introduced TD4 back in TSW 3.

 

i’ll come back to this in 18 months

 

therefore, TSW6 could very well be the last version of TSW

 

If they do Frankfurt-Köln Highspeed and a good UK route, I´m definitly getting it. It´s just a bundle of routes at the end of the day. I hope they put most of the TSW 6 Era routes in the deluxe version again. Great chance to get the routes from the past couple of months cheap.

 

In other news, sim rail is now on console. Well playstation at least

 

I'll be here, most likely eating my words as we launch TSW8

 

Nah well be on Train Sim World Classic soon, then everyone will be whining about blurry windows in the new Train Sim Universe Quantum Entanglement Edition

 

Leak TSW7: the overall quality of the delivered products (DLCs) will be the same as TSW6

 

I'll bet a lot of players asked for those two things last time ( and probably the time before that ).

And where are we today?

 

It’s because it’s just a total facade.

all of the iterations of TSW, have just been to put a bandage over it, and sweep it under the rug, and now that the core is clearly and evidently suffering due to DTGs stubbornness, it’s only going to get worse and worse, the more routes come out, and the more core features exist the more these issues will arise until the game is genuinely unplayable.

the blurry textures are an indication of a ticking time bomb, it’s going to crack eventually, and DTG will have to pay the price, BIG TIME.

 

If I was DTG, I would be looking a making a new game completely. TSW has still got time left in it for sure, like TSC. But we need something else, because TSW is now ten years old and is failing at too many things.

 

I think you meant Special Edition (deluxe is the one with the added locos/trains) ? - and I do wonder how that would work on a TSW7, as the routes they bundle together are all DTG's and on this cycle NY-Stamford and Frankenbahn were the only DTG routes.

 

Agree with a lot of people above. DTG's failure to optimize the game has completely ruined it for me, and blurry textures have saved me a lot of money. They do say it's being worked on, but I'd like to see some proof that it's true, rather than them piling more features onto an already unstable game. Though unfortunately that almost certainly won't be the case as TSW7 will most likely include "dispatcher mode" and a couple of other gimmicks.

 

https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2026/0...ic-release-is-the-portsmouth-direct-line.html

Train Sim World Classic rebrand leaked?

 

And the UK route it seems! Looks like Rivet have been busy then, though not sure how reputable Rail Advent are - it could just be a spoof. I somehow don’t think we would get four new trains even if one was bonus DLC and the description of scenarios sounds more like TSC. In fact it sounds more like a scenario pack for TSC and Rail Advent have muddled the two games.

 

It is a scenario pack for TSC, it was released last week.

 

You have misunderstood. The TSW6 free starter pack acted the same, regardless of which previous version one may have had; it gave one the latest core game and one's existing collection in its TSW6 versions (usual caveats about unbranded Caltrain addons, and addons that have never carried forward, notwithstanding).

 

Thought so..! Not to say we won't get the Portsmouth Direct but more likely to be part of it - Woking or Guildford to Pompey like the OG TSC route, or Waterloo to Guildford and Basingstoke with suburban ops.

 

Don't forget they also tried to sneak through the 'curated list of DLC' for those players on Epic Games Store, and really only got the entire library moved forward after how much backlash they rightfully received. Who in their right mind thinks the East Coastway but NOT the Class 313 was a good idea, hopefully they were sacked, drawn and quartered.

 

Personally, I think DTG shouldn't release TSW7 at all. It's becoming increasingly clear that they've pushed the UE4 engine as far, and possibly beyond, what is possible. It's no good we lucky PC users having a great experience (which I mostly do), when PS5 and Xbox X users don't even have an OK time.

Also, TSW6 ought to be the last version that supports Gen8, unless somehow TSW7 comes with base routes that are Gen8-capable; given that most, if not all, routes now are Gen9 only, what's the point?

It's an utter waste of time and resources managing the increasingly-complex carryover of content to a new version. Matt admitted in a livestream that it's now untenable. In my view, stop now with TSW6, release a Rush Hour-style pack of routes for it this year, and put resources instead into developing a UE5 game.