Nürnberg - Ingolstadt (and Feucht) Discussion Threa

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  1. Matin_TSP

    Matin_TSP Well-Known Member

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    No, the rolling stock coming with this route is standard level.

    Only if you already own the expert 101, the München-Nürnberg-Express will also have the expert features.

    You can always deactivate expert mode in your settings.
     
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  2. TKessel

    TKessel Well-Known Member

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    Please excuse me if this has already been asked before. The Allersberg Express formation in the DLC seems to be the BR 111 with N-Wagen and a cab car.

    If I understand it correctly, during the time period the DLC is simulating, the Allersberg Express was operated with two BR 101s and Münex coaches. So everything needed for the correct Allersberg Express formation is already included in the DLC.

    Is there any reason why we don't get the correct formation for the route?
     
  3. ben#1349

    ben#1349 Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe that's the case. I'm nearly sure it was this formation.
     
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  4. TKessel

    TKessel Well-Known Member

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    See german Wikipedia Page: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allersberg-Express

    Translated to english:
    "From 2006 until December 2013, the trains consisted of an electric locomotive of DB Class 111 and three modernised n-coaches (type Bnrdz, class 451.9), including a driving trailer (type Bnrbdzf, class 480.3). When services first commenced, two Class 112 locomotives were used in a top-and-tail formation. The trains offered 240 seats, all in second class, as well as space for 34 bicycles.

    The final service of the day was operated using a six-coach München–Nürnberg Express set, with a scheduled maximum speed of 160 km/h.

    From 15 December 2013, the trains operated with Bpmz IC coaches and Bpmbdzf cab cars from the München–Nürnberg Express, which were painted in traffic red.

    From July 2014, the cab car was replaced by a DB Class 101 locomotive, resulting in the following train formation:

    101 + Bpmz + Bpmz + Bpmz + 101
    "

    It seems like the english wiki page has not been updated for a while or does not contain that much detailed information.
     
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  5. Emmy_MAN

    Emmy_MAN Well-Known Member

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    No, these aren’t fully-fledged expert locomotives!
    The ICE 3 simply has a few new features that lean towards expert locomotives, but in the case of the ICE 3, these might account for just 5 to 10 per cent of its expert locomotive features.
    And it’s exactly the same with the other locomotives and control carriages, because otherwise none of the locomotives would have been upgraded.
     
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  6. simontreanor81

    simontreanor81 Well-Known Member

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    And as far as I know, the expert-like features only come on if you have train faults enabled.
     
  7. TKessel

    TKessel Well-Known Member

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    The 403 faults only appear when Expert mode is enabled in the options. At least that's what I understood from yesterdays Matin_TSP Stream.
     
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