Route Nkl/seml: Charing Cross And Cannon Street To Hayes, Dartford, Orpington And Bromley North (2022)

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  1. blibbles#5319

    blibbles#5319 Well-Known Member

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    This is another commuter style route of similar length to TSW7's core UK route. This route could be a contender for featuring the most end-to-end services on any route in the game. Set in 2022.

    Route length:
    The route starts from both London Charing Cross and London Cannon street and then meet about a mile later at London Bridge, from there, you have the small, yet busy branch line to Hayes (Kent). That total route coverage is only 12 miles so not much.
    So then you follow the North Kent Line to Dartford, that would only add another 12ish miles though, so included should be the Sidcup and Bexleyheath loops. This brings the total track length up to 50 miles which is reasonable.
    But to go even better, the SEML from Hither Green as far as Orpington as well as the branch line to Bromley North could be included bringing the total route coverage to 59 miles.

    If 59 miles is too much then the line to Orpington and Bromley North branch could be emitted and then included in a route like SEML: Charing Cross & Cannon Street to Hastings or Tonbridge.

    Motive Power:
    Motive Power for this route should idealy the Class 465/0, Class 465/1, and Class 376.
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    For an add-on the refurbished SE Class 707 'City Beam' could be made.
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    Services:
    End to end:
    - Charing Cross to Dartford (vice versa)
    - Cannon Street to Dartford (vice versa)
    - Charing Cross to Orpington (vice versa)
    - Cannon Street to Orpington (vice versa)
    - Charing Cross to Hayes (vice versa)
    - Cannon Street to Hayes (vice versa)
    - Charing Cross to Charing Cross via Sidcup loop clockwise
    - Charing Cross to Charing Cross via Sidcup loop anti-clockwise
    - Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup loop clockwise
    - Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Sidcup loop anti-clockwise
    - Charing Cross to Charing Cross via Bexleyheath loop clockwise
    - Charing Cross to Charing Cross via Bexleyheath loop anti-clockwise
    - Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath loop clockwise
    - Cannon Street to Cannon Street via Bexleyheath loop anti-clockwise
    - Grove Park to Bromley North (vice versa)

    Other services:
    - Charing Cross to Gravesend between Charing Cross and Dartford (vice versa)
    - Cannon Street to Gravesend between Cannon Street and Dartford (vice versa)
    - SEML services to Hastings, Tonbridge, Ramsgate etc. between Charing Cross and Orpington (vice versa)
    - London Victoria to Gravesend between Lewisham and Dartford (vice versa)
    - Various ECS moves across the whole route.

    Ai only:
    - London Victoria to Orpington at Orpington (vice versa)

    Stations:
    Charing Cross

    Waterloo East
    Cannon Street
    London Bridge
    New Cross
    St. Johns
    Ladywell
    Catford Bridge
    Lower Sydenham
    New Beckenham
    Clock House
    Elmers End
    Eden Park
    West Wickham
    Hayes (Kent)
    Hither Green
    Grove Park
    Sundridge Park
    Bromley North
    Elmstead Woods
    Chislehurst
    Petts Wood
    Orpington
    Lee
    Mottingham
    New Eltham
    Sidcup
    Albany Park
    Bexley
    Crayford
    Blackheath
    Kidbrooke
    Eltham
    Falconwood
    Welling
    Bexleyheath
    Barnehurst
    Deptford
    Greenwich
    Maze Hill
    Westcombe Park
    Charlton
    Woolwich Dockyard
    Woolwich Arsenal
    Plumstead
    Abbey Wood
    Belvedere
    Erith
    Slade Green
    Dartford

    The enormous amount of stations make this route seem much bigger than it actually is. The total amount of layed track adds to 59 miles, but the overall, as-the-crow-flies route coverage is about half that.

    Timetable layers:

    Driveable:
    - SE Class 465/9
    - SE Class 375/9 and /6 (not sure about the /3)
    - Class 700/0
    - SE Class 466 (would add to 465 consists for 10car trains)
    - Class 66

    Ai only:
    - SN Class 377/4, /3 and /2 at London Bridge
    - SN Class 171/7 and /8 at London Bridge
     
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  2. blibbles#5319

    blibbles#5319 Well-Known Member

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    I really don't like having to ask for feedback but I'd really like to know some other people's thoughts, is this too much, is it ok, would it be too boring, would it be too memory intensive, do we have enough SouthEastern content in game?
     
  3. jayarrbee36

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    My home station is on that list - count me in!
     
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