Route Airedale & Wharfedale Network: Leeds & Bradford - Skipton & Ilkley

The route is looking fantastic and as someone who knows this route well and built a version in TSC the only thing jumping out to me is the retail units right next to Bradford Forster Square station look nothing like the metal warehouse asset used. They are yellow brick/stone with grey cladding and curved roof. I understand the retail store names not being used but the asset currently in place is so inappropriate and right up against the track. Everything else is looking really great along with the 333 and 331.

 

Hey Matt , I am writing to you this again because you said you would look into this and then you didn't reply, like what happened to having pre-load for Steam users buying the deluxe edition ? why can playstation have 48hr pre-load and Steam gets nothing ?

My current installation for TSW 6 is around 390 GB ! so it would take a lot of time to download all of this again so why not give us the headroom so that we can pre-load the files and can get full 5 days of early access runtime.
DTG Matt DTG Alex

 

Hi, I have a quick question relating to the class 331 traction motor sounds, as someone who used to regularly use the 331 on the Manchester to Crewe line I am very familiar with the VF drive sounds, I noticed that in train sim world 7 they're wrong when the train is decelerating. I'm just wondering, will it be fixed before the game officially releases on the 15th? Thanks!

 

The route looks really good from what we saw on the LiveStream. Rivet have done a good job.

It's a shame that Matt's driving is terrible, plus when he uses the freecam we get so many weird angles and views.
The last hour of the stream is pointless chitter chatter and spider related nonesense.

I'd rather these types of streams be curated and presented pre-recorded showing off more of what players want to see.

 

that would also eliminate the lousy quality of youtube live streams

 

I don’t think I’ve once seen an example of “we’ll be quiet for the announcements” followed by the team actually being quiet.

I did suggest pre-recorded high quality videos & Matt thinks it’s a good idea, so hopefully it will come to fruition.

Furthermore that stream did a really bad job of showing what’s included, it was particularly frustrating to hear so much chatter about how useful the full list of layers and requirements they had was, and they did such a poor job of actually showing us all the layers.

These yearly instalment streams are all I really tune into now due to the presentation quality. Unfortunately I’ll also be subjecting myself to a couple more throughout the year.

These streams need not to be sterile, but they really need pulling back to somewhere between professional & where they are now. We also need a better structure to the previews so that we can actually see the entire product & Matt can actually drive the route.

Im sure they can put other streams on for the pissing about they like so much, but I’m watching these streams as a customer interested in the product & they do such a poor job of showing said product.

 

I'm joining you on this one. PC already has to deal with releasing later in the day and then we have to wait even logner after that. Last time I had to wait around 5 hours for all dlc to install. Given that in my timezone it will be releasing at 19:00 that means there is a very high chance I won't be able to play untill the 11th

 

If you’re playing on the 10th then you’re downloading your content a whole 5 days before consoles anyway.

I’d happily swap a 48hr preload on 20gb of content for no preload but instant access to ALL of my collection.

 

That fills me with no confidence and its gonna ctd on every route I reckon.

 

Driving out of Leeds in the early hours doesn't fill me with confidence for console. Why not show us how it looks at midday?

 

Probably because it will CTD again.

 

Yeah, it’s been pretty bad on PS5 but I don’t know how Xbox users are still spending money on TSW. I absolutely would of binned TSW years ago if I stayed on Xbox - all you ever see on route feedback threads are reports of crashing.

To be fair Leeds at 6 approaching 7am has Azumas and other bits starting their shifts, the triangle routes are also well underway with services at this time too, so it’ll be as memory intensive then as it would be midday, in fact mid day is likely quieter.

 

Guess it makes a change from tons of fog to hide the half arsed scenery in past routes.

 

Very true

 

If you’re on Steam you can untick all your DLC to just get the core and new stuff loaded, then curate back in as convenient bit by bit.

 

It may shock you to know that it's hardly rapid for us console users when we have to download everything and five hours is about average for us as well. It's not uncommon for us to download the game over night.

 

Why are the DTG and Rivet routes devoid of the real railway lineside infrastructure, the concrete cable troughs, the orange plastic conduit etc? If this was a real railway it would not function.
The other developers can do it, come on the DTG and make the track side look real.

 

+1 on this , I also noticed this on the preview streams and in some sections the scenery does look unfinished and the transition from ballast to the track side vegetation seems unnatural and the main thing almost zero track-side clutter makes it look less immersive.

 

Aahh diddums

 

Class 801 in cab audio clicks every few minutes, just one quick burst.....randomly. AWS green signal alterer in the 331 sounds like an 8 bit sample, and not a 16 bit or 24 bit sample, apart from that, its a pretty good route.

 

Hello how do I install all addons for the game tsw 7 are do i have to wait till full release

 

If you on console then you have to wait another 5 days

 

people flying and spawning on the tracks between bradford and frizinghall (xbox pc)

 

Every time my finger tries to hover over the "Buy" button, thankfully something gets posted telling me not to let the money burn a hole in my pocket!

 

Go on Vern buy it join the beta testers

 

The titles of the official discussion threads are the same as the feedback threads which no longer have feedback thread appended to the title. When navigating the forum through the New Posts page, it makes it hard to distinguish them. I clicked on this thinking it was the feedback thread and wondered why there was so much discussion and not much feedback. It would be nice if the feedback threads could have “feedback thread” back in the title to help, as there are so many threads knocking about with identical titles.

 

If we’re honest, they just made a complete hash of the forum layout. If they wanted to remove certain sub-forums then that’s what they should have done. I don’t really get what this ‘change’ achieved- I doubt it’s less work for the comms team as they now seem to have to duplicate posts all over the place.

It’s certainly not easy as a user to navigate it either.

 

As much as I don't want to drag this thread too far off-topic, I hate that the General Discussion page is so far down the list as it's probably the section I go to most

 

Me too,I've normally brought it on day one ,but I'm just going to get the free pack this time and wait

 

I'll be honest Vern, I'm quite happy with it. The route naturally has the traditional DTG/Rivet hallmarks of missing clutter, cable troughs and the odd bug such as the floating object at Bingley but I've spent around 7 hours doing various runs on there and not had any game breaking issues. The new guard feature is a little bugged but is a very welcome addition, on the 331 it does seem to work almost flawlessly (except you don't get the double buzz) though on occasion it might glitch at the terminal station and require you to leave the cab and cycle the doors from the cabin yourself. Similar with the 333, just there is a very annoying alarm sounding while you have it in neutral (for the doors).

I've found both the 331 and 333 fun to drive, I wasn't expecting to enjoy the 331 as much as I have as of course I'm not a fan of modern one hand drive units but it's been quite good so far. The service pattern can be quite varied too if you hit the correct ones so that you don't do an out and back but either the full or half network (not everything goes to Ilkey).

The big thing though, which is more for TSW7 itself is the graphical improvements - it's worked wonders on the older routes, I've been doing a few runs between Preston and Crewe and the lighting is so much better (you can actually enjoy driving in the rain now without the highly reflective ballast and vehicle bodywork). I feel there has been some minor performance improvements there too, though some of this will be down to my own tweaking of the settings. One thing I'm sure you will be happy with though is that there doesn't seem to be as much "rubber-banding" as there used to be, it's still there of course but seemingly not as much.

Of course it is a case of "to each, his own" but I feel that I've not been ripped off with this one, while the route could do with improvements and fixes it is a far cry from Cardiff...

 

Ah, you tempt me Phil. But I think I can hold out until Tuesday for the core improvements - if there had been a UK pack for (say) £30 pre order with early access I might have gone for it but I have very little interest in this year's German route and the US route is only of passing interest. Not enough to justify £58.

It might have helped if DTG (or Rivet) had commented on some of the issues being raised with the route and trains, particularly the possibly recycled sounds on both the 331 and 333 and the hot rod physics of the 331.

 

That's quite all-right Vern, to be honest I only bit the bullet because while I wanted to save some money, I'm impatient and wanted it now with the small discount rather than waiting for the sale but also because I have a passing interest in the Florida route, though as yet I've not tried it. I too would have rather had a UK regional pack had one been available

On an unrelated note, while trying Blackpool Branches out to see how the graphical improvements are I saw they have the new timetable with the electric locos as well as aircon rakes including your beloved RMB

 

The route I’m looking forward to seeing the new lighting on is the Czech one. Currently finishing up a run in TSW6. Will see how I feel about things in the morning, maybe go for it.

 

Finally got to do a run in the Class 333 today.

I'm very impressed!

Seems very well modeled and actually has quite a bit of character. A&W has certainly been my favorite route of the three so far (though I do like all of them).

 

Was It Planned For The Westbound LNER Services To Not Call At Shipley Because They Do Call At Shipley IRL So If That Wasn’t Intentional Could You Take A Look At Fixing This Please, Thanks

 

333 on Airedale & Wharfedale Network: Doors won't open or close. You have to open & close them manually if you want the passengers to load. Using the controller doesn't work..... pressing the buttons in the cab doesn't work. I had turned the new conductor feature off because that doesn't work either.
Xbox Series X

 

Reverser in neutral?

 

Nope, it was in forward

 

The 333 enforces the reverser being in neutral for door operations. It's standard practice for every UK train, it's just one of the few than enforces it

 

interesting. I wouldn't know something like that. My only experience with trains is TSW, and up to this point they all worked in forward, neutral or reverse.
Appreciate the tip.

 

Hi everyone, as someone who uses this route almost daily. I’ve noticed a couple of things wrong with the timetables. As mentioned by someone else, the LNER services call at Leeds, Bradford and Shipley in both directions. The Northern services between Leeds to Skipton and Leeds to Ilkley don’t stop at Apperley Bridge or Kirkstall. I believe it’s only the Leeds to Bradford and Bradford to Leeds services which use both of those stations. A recent change was made either last year or the year before that the Leeds to Skipton services were upped to 6 car class 331s to meet demand despite the last 2 carriages not fitting on platform 2 at Shipley but the 6 car units aren’t applied to every Skipton service, mainly in peak times. Hopefully that makes sense lol. So it would be great to see 6 car sets in the future

 

Quite a nice route overall, though I am disappointed that after a year now of onboard announcements they still play as soon as the train comes to a stop as opposed to when they would realistically sound after the doors have been opened.

 

Seems a good route overall with some small issues. I had issues with the guard doors opening wrong side etc but assume I maybe haven't had the recent patch, so will revisit next time I play. The announcements for the stations seem to not have the approaching and instead play the “this is xxx” while on approach.

Also not sure I’m a fan of the new movements walking or camera wise, unsure changes were really required.

 

They don't in game either

 

I’ve done a handful of Skipton to Leeds routes and both had stops at Apperley bridge and Kirkstall I’m fairly certain. To be fair I’ve bashed this route more than I care to admit over the last 4 days so I maybe getting it muddled up. I’ll double check this

 

The runs I’ve done don’t either (though I’ve only done a few so far). Just looking over the scoring potential on Skipton & Ilkley runs, nothing indicates any stop at 2 additional stations.

I’ve done a fair bit of watching gameplay for the route over the weekend too & didn’t see any stop there either, always just the Bradford shuttles.

 

So the 20:45 Skipton to Leeds route has Apperley Bridge and Kirkstall both as stops, in the class 331 and 333. Maybe this is a one off in the real world timetable? I’m not too sure

 

Actually, as realtime trains does prove, skipton services do stop at those 2 stations in the late evening. Everyday’s a school day

 

Metal bar floating at Bingley Station