S-bahn Zentralschweiz: Luzern - Sursee Route

S-Bahn Zentralschweiz: Luzern - Sursee Route:

Apart from the SBB RABe 523 4-car EMU do any other trains layer into this route.?

 

No, that’s all you got.

 

This and LGV (and Arosa) really should be on permanent deep discount given their lack of layering with other routes.

I would love to see a true commitment to developing routes outside the “big 3” countries but these one-offs just aren’t worth the investment.

 

At least this one now layers onto Vorarlberg.

 

Definitely one for 50% or better off in a sale.

 

You first need the license which requires a lot of talking and planning and access to reference material. That's down to 3rd parties really. Dtg can't do everything alone.

 

It desperately needs another train. Throw in an Re 420 and some coaches (plus wagons from other routes) and you've got a decent addon. As it is, it's a wasted opportunity.

 

Sorry to bring back an ancient thread but picked this up for £5.99 and was pleasantly surprised, for that price at least. Quite a small route but it’s been quite fun going up and down the line.

 

I have a soft spot for this one too, even though it's not the most exciting or pretty route, to say the least

 

i wouldn’t mind a remaster on this, i’d play it a lot more as i haven’t touched it in years. the broken etcs, generally sub par scenery and short route length are a big turnoff

 

Biggest snag for me is that most of the Journey runs are at night, when it’s hosing down with rain or snow. Also a shame it never got extended or a nice classic RE 4/4 with some Schierien stock.

 

I guess the ETCS is still buggy AF?

 

last i checked it is. i think the logic of the system even got changed a while back as sbb demanded so

 

oh, damn :/ ... what a shame... we really need good ETCS in this game as it is the future of rail, and not only in long-distance (Wien Stammstrecke is currently being converted to ETCS in phases to increase frequency even further)

 

the ats ecml could be the perfect opportunity to reintroduce it as i believe the rollout began quite recently

 

This route really has something to it and I like the Flirt. Yes it could be have done lot better, but also worse. I like to play this route from time to time, I do get the Swiss feel with this route and I like hiw much the landscape is changing from city to rural.

 

isnt Flirt also in the Dutch route? or am I just confusing things? ... that one is done pretty well safety system - wise, tho the rolling resistance is... erm, ehm...

as for the route and the train, I was initially thrilled, but my thrill quickly vanished after getting a couple unwarranted ETCS penalty brake applications

 

What is the problem with ETCS there? I'm considering to buy this route everytime when there is a sale, but I'm thinking everytime about "buggy ETCS" and not buying it, but I have never seen what exactly is bugged.

 

It’s basically not even ETCS, the signalling on the route works as it does with any other typical route & what that translates to in gameplay is basic block signalling.

 

it’s essentially just there for show, it has minimal impact on driving

 

well, ETCS should kinda show you speed reductions with braking curve, ahead of time so you have time to react, kinda like ACSES does on some US routes... but often it happens very suddenly, with minimal distance and time to react at all, and what follows is pretty much unwarranted penalty brake application... and the point of ETCS is making sure you know when to brake and to give you enough time for it so you/train is safe

 

No, that’s the SNG from CAF rather than the Stadler Flirt. Closer to the 331.

 

has very similar esthetic tho

 

The Flirt is also layering on the Vorarlberg route.

 

That is the only thing I still use it for.

 

And in real life there is no Flirt on Voralberg, that's a Stadler GTW.

 

So in Voralberg, you can not find a girlfriend or boyfriend if you can not FLIRT

 

Austrians don't flirt, they're better in giving and following orders