PlayStation Isle Of White

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  1. George1862

    George1862 Active Member

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    Does anyone no the date of the island line
     
  2. HamioSamio098

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    No date has been confirmed but I feel that it could come in October.
     
  3. Knightfire1964

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    Basically until DTG or Rivet reveal the date no one knows
     
  4. breblimator

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    I hope it will be tomorrow because the more important (for me!) things are behind it in order :D
     
  5. stujoy

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    I heard it will be released on the eleventeenth of Octember, but I can’t confirm it.
     
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  6. Luke8899

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    Oh yeah we all know the date, we are just keeping it to ourselves because we enjoy baseless speculation so much.
     
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  7. mclitke

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    Isle of white is not on the roadmap yet :P
     
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  8. breblimator

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    It's not even on the map, which could mean - no trains there :( :( :(
     
  9. DB628

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    Rivet Games need really long for this 8 Kilometer route :(
    Almost 2 months and still no TSW 2 DLCs came out
     
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  10. KyleL

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    oh cool I'll pick it up in Dectober
     
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  11. stujoy

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    It’ll make a great Eastmas present.
     
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  12. Tank621

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    In their defence, this is the first route they've made in a completely new game engine, plus it's only been 1 month since the game released anyway, that really isn't that long
     
  13. Medellinexpat

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    ‘In their defence, this is the first route they've made in a completely new game engine’

    They could always pop around to Dovetail and ask. Both are located in Stirling Scotland a town of 37,000 people (Dovetail also has their other location in Chatham England).

    Quite a coincidence.
     
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  14. George1862

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    Ok thanks
     
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    The Isle Of Wight (not White!) is on the roadmap in the 'next arrival' section.
     
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  16. jeanmarc094

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    and when tsw 2020 launched, the first dlc for it launched on october 10. that was Rhein-Ruhr Osten
     
  17. jeanmarc094

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    when tsw 2020 launched, the first dlc for it launched on october 10. that was Rhein-Ruhr Osten
     
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    Judging by the many spelling errors present here,i'm guessing some here should avoid driving,clearly to much drinking has gone down tonight,as for the isle of wight as soon as hell freezes over rivet games will release isle of wight.i really don't care what anyone thinks because if they can complain so can i.
     
  19. ross.duncan35

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    dtg offices in stirling is no longer there closed it down
     
  20. Medellinexpat

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    dtg offices in stirling is no longer there closed it down

    and didn’t transform into Rivet?

    looking at Linkedin the more experienced people seem ex DTG.
     
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    maybe the case if so there would be no need to visit an empty office to ask dovetail.
     
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    ‘maybe the case if so there would be no need to visit an empty office to ask dovetail‘

    The issue in question was whether Rivet were completely new to the engine etc.

    Perhaps if you have more knowledge (Rivet is privately held so there’s not much information online ) you could share.

    I’ll start. Alan Thomson (of Thomson interactive) is involved and according to Linkedin his favorite crisp flavor is beef.
     
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    Some people who work for Rivet may well have had some prior experience with TSW tools but that’s not the same as having a team who can fully develop a route, get it past the certifications for consoles etc, and see it through to publication. It doesn’t really matter one way or another. They are doing it now, so they know the tools well enough to make TSW content. They have plans to do more (on the roadmap) and we will see in the long run how much they do and how good the content is.
     
  24. Medellinexpat

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    Art team supervisor, over six years at DTG, a CEO with 10 years at DTG (including as the GM in Scotland), lead vehicle artist 8 years at DTG, an Environment Artist with 4 years at DTG - I could go on. A company who states as their business ‘Passionate artists and developers designing quality routes and models for Train Simulator and Train Sim World‘ and nothing else. They have (or are applying) for a governmental Brexit support grant.

    ‘The products the Rivet team has made to date have been sold exclusively through a single third party. With Brexit uncertainty, the company now sees this as a direct risk to the business. Fluctuations in currency exchange may also indirectly inhibit total sales.
    To mitigate these risks, Rivet Games wants to put in place new commercial trading partners. It also wants to start selling products direct to market in a way that consumers can purchase using their local currency.’

    Do they sell only through one single third party. There’s Steam, there’s DTG, there’s Aerosoft...


    Almost make you wonder, if under some Government scheme, there was some more incentive money for setting up a de noveau company or some other financial strategy that explains Rivet.

    Still, if you want to believe that this is not DTG linked and seeded with ex DTG resources be my guest.
     
  25. breblimator

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    It sounds like a little bit like old friends of yours :D
     
  26. stujoy

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    What exactly is your point? Everyone knows Rivet Games is based in Stirling with some of DTG’s former Stirling staff, it’s not a secret. We all know that the two third parties making or planning to make DLC for TSW have previously worked with DTG in one way or another. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s just a natural progression of things.

    Rivet Games is not a part of DTG but some staff have worked for both, that’s it. If either or both companies are eligible for government grants then that is nobody’s business but theirs, as is the way they sell their products, now or in the future.
     
  27. Medellinexpat

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    What exactly is your problem? The concept that Rivet haven’t produced more content to dafe because they’re learning the tools doesn’t seem to hold water. Also, Rivet coming to the market isn’t a third party showing ‘confidence’ in the TSW platform and that it’s an indicator that other third parties are about to jump on board. At best they are a second party.

    I didn’t suggest its a conspiracy. As for being eligible for Government grants as a UK taxpayer I’m allowed to show interest in how money gets spent, even if you’d rather I didn’t mention it. Personally I think that rationale for needing support is a little thin (credit cards and paypal ultimately allow us all to pay ‘in our local currency’).

    Rivet might not be part of DTG but that doesn’t mean that the companies aren’t connected in some way, such as common owners. That only matters in the context of this thread about whether they haven’t produced much content yet for TSW as they are ‘learning’

    In the end we’ll see what quality of DLC they produce, hopefully good. But your statement that ‘Rivet may well have had some prior experience with TSW tools’ clearly is nonsense. They have plenty of experience.
     
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    I don’t have a problem. 24 hours ago you thought that Rivet could pop next door to talk to DTG, now you're claiming they are owned by the same people and are you’re trawling the internet for any kind of info on their finances and crisp flavour preferences, to prove some point or other, and I don’t think anyone here has quite grasped what the dickens that is.
     
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    I think you have a problem. You clearly, for some reason don’t want a discussion around this. I wonder why? Perhaps you’re just a fan boy, but then perhaps not.

    On the crisp flavors its all there on Linkedin. Little biographies of Rivet people. Hardly the most professional content (not that you’d understand that).
     
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  30. Tank621

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    Anyways, the Isle of Wight is lovely, right?
    I haven't been there for maybe 10 years now bit it's going to be nice to be able to 'revisit' it in-game.
     
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  31. mclitke

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    well maybe it is just that no one here really cares about the financial and legal side of the company technicalities, it just ain't important to train lovers :D
     
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  32. breblimator

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    Exactly. They have the right to choose their own business partners.
    I can only guess who might not like such choices. And why :D
    PS I hate trains!
     
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  33. Trainmania100

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    I'd imagine it's a bit windy at the moment irl
     
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  36. breblimator

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    Does anyone know the date of the island line or not? :D
     
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    No confirmed date atm, a few people have suggested October as likely, but we've heard nothing official
     
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  39. Trainmania100

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    I fail to see why everyone's so desperate for IOW, it was released on TS a few years ago so not much new, other than a fresh remake

    I am also excited for it, but I don't mind waiting happy to play sand patch and east Coastway til it is ready
     
  40. mclitke

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    please remind yourself that not everyone has played TS, I for example don't know the route at all. That being said, I will wait patiently and silently until they release it, no need to make a fuzz for nothing since it won't change anything about the release.
     
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  41. DTG Protagonist

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    Keep this on topic and take the arguments outside please.
     
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    brilliant went out and got on enjoyed my life over the weekend .just caught up with this thread,and what? dtg protagonist going show the edited bits,missed it all!guys girls its only a game/sim.any way only thing i can add is once applied for the tea boy job in stirling.......!never got it!...ps whens iow coming out?lol
     
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    yes and so is the routes coming on the road map so plenty lols to come.
     
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    Latest rivet response upload_2020-9-28_9-21-48.png
     
  45. Trainmania100

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    So we know it's not Thursday, it could be wednesday?! :-D
     
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    My guess is mid-october. Just expect it to release later rather than sooner, because then you are way happier when it dies release earlier! :D
     
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    Releases for Dovetail stuff generally releases on Thursdays and Fridays. So if Rivet is not ready for this Thursday, than it next week or the week after that.
     
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    An update on the rivet forums today, they are still working on the DLC...
    "Just to make this official: We're [still] working on hard the Isle of Wight add-on, but we can't give you any updates on a release date yet! ..."

    What I don't understand is why was this put in the Next Arrival section, if it's not even ready? It should still be in the "In Production" section, or at best, the "Upcoming" section. The purpose of the roadmap is to give people an idea of what's coming, and I assumed the headings "In Production", "Upcoming", and "Next Arrival" beared relevance to their potential release dates,

    If Rivet are still working on it, why was it put in the Next Arrival section and not kept in In Production or at best moved to Upcoming?

    It may be worth moving this down in tomorrows roadmap, I don't think it is the next arrival somehow
     
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    My guess is we will find out tomorrow when the road is gone over with Sam & Adam
     
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  50. Mattty May

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    It might have been expected for the next arrival, but then something has been discovered that meant that couldn’t be the case.
     
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