More London Underground Lines.

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  1. Geth_2234

    Geth_2234 Well-Known Member

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    I'd love to see the circle line or the Hammersmith and City lines with the s7 stock in train sim world with the bakerloo line already in the game i would love to see the oldest tube stock and the newest tube stock in the game together.

    Anyone agree or have any other suggestions?
     
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  2. Renfe cercanias

    Renfe cercanias Active Member

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    No hacen rutas con ATO, pero me gustaría ver la línea central o la línea jubileo tal vez.
     
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  3. Geth_2234

    Geth_2234 Well-Known Member

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    2 very good additions also.
     
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  4. sophieclarke1983

    sophieclarke1983 Well-Known Member

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    Definitely agree shouldn’t be that hard for DTG given S7/S8 stock already exists in versions of train simulator on pc
     
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  5. Renfe cercanias

    Renfe cercanias Active Member

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    [QUOTE = "Geth_2234, publicación: 191838, miembro: 21646"] También dos muy buenas adiciones. [/ QUOTE]
    Sí, tal vez en el futuro puedan agregar una nueva ruta del metro de londres
    We need a other london underground route , but I would like to see the ATO driving the train
     
  6. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    DTG ain’t make that route though. JustTrains did.
     
  7. gerard.armstrong

    gerard.armstrong New Member

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    Would deffo like to see more Underground routes added.
     
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  8. kiyoko91

    kiyoko91 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. Northern, Metropolitan, Central, Victoria, Jubilee, Piccadilly or District Line.
     
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  9. Class395

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    Jubilee Line would by my favourite with Victoria on second place. Both of these lines have the highest average speeds on the network, the 1996 stock has the best sounding traction motors I have ever heard and if in the far future announcements can be implemented than look no futher then the Victoria line to show that off.
    The Victoria Line also has a crazy frequency in rush hour where there is a train every 90s but I doubt that would work all to well lol.


     
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    Articuno Well-Known Member

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    I believe the Central, Jubilee, Northern and Victoria lines all have what is basically automated trains at this point where the driver just pushes a button to open and close the door. They probably won't build those routes for this reason (or at least in their modern day state) That leaves Circle, District, Hammersmith and Piccadilly (oh and Waterloo and City I guess lol). They are more likely to do Piccadilly (Matt P mentioned it in the video with Geoff Marshall as their second choice after Bakerloo) or maybe the District line. Circle and most of Hammersmith have already been done in World of Subways 3 so that's probably what they are least likely to do.
     
  11. Class395

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    I'm pretty sure the subsurface lines (District, Metropolitan, Circle and Hammersmith & City) are all having ATO introduced by stages. That being said I don't see why ATO is a deal breaker, could work like a regular safety system on other routes which you isolate if you wish to.

    Here is an article about subsurface network modernisation from TfL, so it doesn't get much more accurate lol
     
  12. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    Because people like to drive the routes exactly like real life.

    DTG can avoid this by:

    1. Not including ATO

    2. Setting the routes in a time without ATO

    3. Not doing ATO lines

    4. Putting ATO in the route and having the community complain about it

    I’ve also heard that if you disable ATO on a tube train, you are restricted to 15 MPH.
     
  13. Class395

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    You are not wrong, with ATO disabled trains cannot exceed 15mph.

    My guess is, if they do it, they'll do it with ATO. The only lines without ATO atm or plans to introduce it in the next couple of years are the Picadilly and Bakerloo lines (and even then the New Tube for London is scheduled to debut in 2024).

    The Victoria Line has had ATO since 1968 so it's hardly new technology. If people want to complain about there being ATO, be my guest. It would still be very interesting to drive a 1996 or a 2009 stock IMO, but that's just me.

    I mean c'mon, look at these
    [​IMG]
     
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  14. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    I’m fine with ATO being there. I like it on the ICE Train. I am just trying to explain why some may NOT want it.
     
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  15. Renfe cercanias

    Renfe cercanias Active Member

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    Zeenoz plays and class 395 you have no idea about trains. a train without ATO is not limited to just 15 mph. London Underground trains have several driving modes and one of them is the tripcoke, which is manual driving. the driver must go at the speed imposed by the signals, but not limited to 15 mph ...
     
  16. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes a train has to be moved without To enable the train to be moved when no code is present, an "on code/off code" switch is provided in the cab. To keep the trip valve energised, the train speed must not exceed 10 mi/h when this switch is in the "off code" position and a vigilance button provided on the driver's control desk must be held pressed down while the train is being driven. This system provides a speed limit when trains have to be worked in service with a failure of the safety equipment and serves in place of the deadman's handle. To assist the driver under these conditions a warning device sounds when the speed approaches 9 mi/h. (This is for the Victoria)

    For subsurface lines, Restricted Manual mode (Driving the train without ATO) restricts the train to 20 MPH.
     
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  17. Class395

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    We have no idea about trains I guess huh
     
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  18. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    I guess not...
     
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  19. Renfe cercanias

    Renfe cercanias Active Member

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    ok zeenoz plays then according to you what are the driving modes of the london underground?
     
  20. Class395

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    This is the Master Controller in the 1996 Stock:
    [​IMG]

    I don't think you realise me and ZeenozPlays aren't saying that there is no full speed manual mode on these trains. Per operating procedure you are NOT ALLOWED to drive in Full Speed Manual mode on ATO equipped lines. The trains have this mode, however you are not allowed to use it (I'm not sure if the train has some sort of failsafe where it simply refuses to accelerate beyond 9mph if ATO is inactive as I'm not a tube driver). That was what we meant when we said that tube trains cannot exceed 15mph in manual service, but then again, we have no idea about trains...
     
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  21. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    ...no idea at all... lol
     
  22. Renfe cercanias

    Renfe cercanias Active Member

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    bueno. Lamento haberte dicho que no sabías nada de trenes, pero tienes que entender que pensé que me estabas diciendo que los trenes no tenían una forma manual de conducir. una vez más lo siento
     
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  23. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    Esta bien. Algunas cosas se pueden perder en la traducción. Puede que no seamos conductores de metro, pero sabemos bastante sobre trenes y procedimientos operativos. Actualmente estoy esperando una explicación completa de la conducción manual a máxima velocidad y la publicaré aquí si responden.

    English: It is okay. Some things can be lost in translation. We may not be tube drivers, but we do know a fair bit about trains and operating procedures. I am currently waiting on a full explanation of Full Speed Manual Driving and I will post that explanation here when (if) they respond.
     
  24. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    According to a London Underground driver, Full Speed Manual doesn’t exist anymore and can’t be selected.

    Subsurface lines run in ‘Tripcock Mode’ since those routes are partially controlled by ATO.
     
  25. no123

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    Waterloo & CIty.
     
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  26. Geth_2234

    Geth_2234 Well-Known Member

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    I agree here 1996 stock definitely has the best sounding traction motors on the underground I would definitely purchase the route but I do remember matt from DTG saying to Geoff Marshall jubilee line was there second option so they may already have the research to hand.
     
  27. Renfe cercanias

    Renfe cercanias Active Member

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    Jubilee line the second option ?!! Guaaaaaaaaaau men
     
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    Geth_2234 Well-Known Member

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    Geoff Marshalls video speaking to matt from DTG
     
  29. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    The second option is the Piccadilly.
     
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