PlayStation Southeastern: London - Faversham Release Date?

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  1. traingeek241

    traingeek241 Member

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    Just wondering if any of you would have a realistic guess when this DLC will be released? Been waiting months for this hoping it would have been out before Christmas. I have been following the roadmap updates but nothing has been announced yet...
     
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  2. Aufzug

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    DTG needed more time to develop it, so I'm gonna guess it's gonna be 1-2 months before it comes out.
     
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  3. Slemcer

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    I'm still wondering how that could be a high speed route as the highest speed limit between Gravesend and Faversham is 95 mph, and this only for a short distance.
     
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  4. jeanmarc094

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    my guess is february release.
     
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  5. traingeek241

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    I'm a bit puzzled too. This route is mainly served by the 375 I believe.
     
  6. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    I'd say it's coming late January - Early March. We don't want them to rush this route.
     
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  7. FD1003

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    For the first 10/15 minutes we run on HS1:
    High Speed 1 or Channel Tunnel Rail Link (CTRL) which runs between London St.P and the channel tunnel, we only run a portion of it, until Ebbsfleet Intl. with a speed limit of 225 km/h using the same signalling and safety systems as the LGV.

    The name "Southeastern High Speed" comes from the fact that the Southeastern train company decided to brand their services in Kent through HS1 as "High Speed" so it's their fault.

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  8. Slemcer

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    Amazing, I really "love" such boasting ... 10 minutes high speed and the rest of the time a strolling train? Okay, at least it's not DTG's fault. :)
     
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  9. FD1003

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    Actually it's a bit more than 10 minutes... more like 15 but I'm just trying to remember it from playing in TS so take it with a pinch of salt... it's only 37km of HS railway anyway but you have to stop twice (at Stratford and Ebbsfleet) but the majority of the route is spent on the traditional third rail part.
     
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  10. bart2day

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    Yes, I had (wrongly) assumed that it would be released before Christmas too as I assumed that routes were released in the order they go into 'in production' on the roadmap; and this, along with HMA, were the first two in that section on the first roadmap in August. Plus DTG had released UK routes just before Xmas for the last three years. Oh well, hopefully it comes in February and doesn't get leapfrogged (again) by Clinchfield.
     
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    Please correct me if I'm wrong, but hasnt the Faversham route been in production ever since the very first TSW2 roadmap? This route has been under development for around 3 or 4 months now so unless some sort of significant issue had popped along the way, its reasonable to assume they're basically in the final stages of production by now. I don't believe any other route has taken this long to make.

    Its speculation, but I'm willing to bet my money that this will release sometime in the first few weeks of January, maybe mid-January.
     
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  12. ZeenozPlays

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    It can take up to 12-15 months to create a route. I believe it was "in planning" on the first roadmap. We ain't getting it till Late January - Early March. Maybe even later. The more time, the better.
     
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    That number would be the amount of hours each person on the development team collectively spends making each route.
    Its all the 'man-hours' put together towards making the route.
    I know, its a bit confusing. :D

    But really, from the moment they begin planning a route to the moment they finish it, is roughly around 3 to 5 months. That's the number that concerns us consumers
     
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  14. ZeenozPlays

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    I'd feel better if you said 5-7 months.
     
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    No it wasn't. It's been 'in production' ever since the first roadmap in August which is why I was so surprised (and annoyed) to see it had been leapfrogged by the LGV route.
     
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    Really? Damn, they've been working on it for a while. Well, at least there might be less of a chance it'll release with hundreds of bugs.
     
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    So, the top speed is 95mph..? :(
     
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    "Southeastern HIGH SPEED" seems legit.
     
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    225 km/h - 140 mph
     
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    Phew. As long as it's faster than GWR.
     
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    After a quick search, according to RTT, the 8:55am St Pancras to Faversham is pathed as Class 395 EMU & planned for 140mph max. I guess with all the stops it does it can only reach 95mph in certain areas..
     
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    As long as it’s interesting I'm cool with not operating at 140.

    But give me at least 1 service where I can exceed 90.
     
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    It DOES reach 140 mph on HS1 between St.P and Stratford and between Stratford and Ebbsfleet


    From minute 38:00
    He reaches 140 mph at minute 43:00 between Ebbsfleet and Stratford
     
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  24. ZeenozPlays

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    Is that when it goes through the tunnel?
     
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    Between London St.P and Stratford yes, after stratford there is only a bit of tunnel than it'a a viaduct all the way to Ebbsfleet where you branch off onto the third rail part.

    90 is the max speed limit on the third rail part, and is just before Faversham
     
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  26. Mattty May

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    If the development time ensures fewer bugs and everything working as it should, they can take as long as they need. I’d rather it come out later and be more polished than released early and be tarnished.
     
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  27. ARuscoe

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    There are other sources of info than this site for "what does a train do...?"
    The Highspeed part relates to what Southeastern have branded their trains that run on HS1 and that the line HS1 stands for High Speed 1
    They are the fastest regular service trains in the UK that are not international (the Eurostar can go faster)

    On the section involved you're on the high speed line for approx 20 mins (https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/J08371/2020-12-10/detailed) with the sections just after Ebbslfeet (about 2 mins) between Dagenham and Stratford (5 mins) and from Stratford to a few mins before St Pancras (about 4 mins) being in tunnels

    A fair few vids on youtube with passenger views of the route

    From Ebbsfleet to Faversham you're on the North Kent Lines and then the Chatham Mainline
     
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  28. FD1003

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    Finally thank you, I felt like I was being trolled... someone must have written the highest speed limit on the third rail section (which is 90mph) and somehow became the highest speed of the route...
     
  29. ZeenozPlays

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    I agree.
     
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    "But how can it be high speed when it has to slow down?"
    (nobody mention station speed limits are lower than linespeed, they'll have an aneurism)
     
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    Based on recent comments on the stream and typical release behavior, I would assume Southeastern Highspeed is going to be released January/February, the American DTG DLC (don't remember what it was) will be next around March/April and Hamburg-Luebeck should be around May/June - with the 3rd party DLCs somewhere in between :). I hope that they add some new DLC's soon to the roadmap, as there hasn't been a single new one since the release of the roadmap.
     
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    I find it dangerous to assume anything with DTG so take any specific dates as "flexible"...
    The six routes and seven locos already in production aren't enough, along with all the fixes, updates and rebuilds?
     
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    That depends if you actually want the dlc they've got on the route map.. not everyone buys them all and not everyone has the same wish lists.
     
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    I am aware that the dates are just rough estimates, that was the point of my post :)

    Well, that is true, there is a lot of stuff on there, but all is in production already, so there should be preparations for the next routes going on :) I am mostly interested in German routes, and there is now one in production, presumably at a very early stage, and I am very curious to see what the plans for the next routes are :) Especially if there is "new" stuff coming, like the LGV.
     
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  35. ARuscoe

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    I would say that five in various stages of production is more than enough... If it took them a year to get the three original TSW2 routes together...
     
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    That is perfectly fine, everyone can have their own preferences :)
     

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