Xbox 465 Ai Still Not Fully Fixed?

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  1. bradleycox02

    bradleycox02 New Member

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    If you go onto timetable, do a service and then go into free roam then no more 465's appear. Been on freedom for about 2 hours and seen 2 465 in the first 15 mins and that's it. Why in the patch notes did it say fixed when it should say partially fixed.
     
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  2. Bryer

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    They are random. I've had a absolute stack of 465's in free roam since the update for Southeastern Highspeed. Averaging about 3 every hour, which I think is what they are timetabled to do, as they share the runs with the 375 which is the main unit on the commuter side of things.
     
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  3. bradleycox02

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    Yea I know they're meant to be random. I'm just not seeing any. I only see them for the fist 15-30 mins and then nothing after that.
     
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  4. Bryer

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    There is only so many 465's that can spawn in.
     
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    I am having the same thing. I been on since 11am going between rochester and faversham. Not seen a single 465. I had the update yesterday. Restarted the xbox. Still exactly the same. Very disappointed for sure. Buying a new train expecting to see more than just the 395 and 375 all the time.
     
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  6. Bryer

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    Been getting it fine randomly all morning here. I've been streaming for nearly 5 hours and seen plenty of 465's throughout free roam mode!
     
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  7. ARuscoe

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    IRL 465s don't work much beyond Rochester (maybe 1-2 services a day)
    In game they're supposed to sub the 700s which don't go beyond Rainham

    So what I'm saying is it SHOULD depend on where you're expecting to see the 465, whether it does or not is another matter
     
  8. Bryer

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    Yeah the line is really populated between Rainham and Gravesend with 465's in my game. Route feels really busy as well.
     
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  9. stevenwalker1985

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    Am sitting at rochester since 11am as they should all pass through here. Not seen a single 1 yet
     
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  10. Bryer

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    Try doing it a 7am game time. You won't get any at 11am as none are booked to run.
     
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    If DTG have done the subs right there should be about two each way every hour from morning til midnight as they're subbing the 700 Thameslink services
     
  12. Bryer

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    No it's random split between the 375 and 465 on those services. I've noticed a lot more 465's during rush hour!
     
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    I have done those 7am services. Why woild i go back and do ones i have already done
     
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    Plus i said i have been on since 11am. My time not game time. Game time i started at 10am from st pancras
     
  15. Bryer

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    Services in the timetable are booked to run both 375 and 465 and are randomly assigned a unit depending on what ever DTG set the spawn rate too you may have to run each service individually if you want to do it specifically in a Class 465.

    Wasn't clear what you meant. Sorry.
     
  16. oliverrobertsmithson

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    I think what Bryer is trying to say is that the 465s spawn completely random in the game. In timetable mode, the services that they operate are sparse after a certain time, hence why around 10/11am in game you won't see many. I've been watching Bryer's stream since around 10am and we've seen plenty of them, a good and realistic amount to provide the amount of immersion that I feel DTG are trying to provide to us as the end user.

    I hope this makes a bit more sense.
     
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  17. stevenwalker1985

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    the 375 has 200 services and the 465 has 136 service. I just noticed they have the same service number. So i take it they random pick a service to go on but 9 times out of 10 it will be the 375?
     
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    This is incorrect information, the 465 has only 85 services or around that. Not the 136 as you claim.
     
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    I aint claiming nothing. Its what it says. 51 services plus 85 is 136 is it not. As shown in the pictures 466b80fd-2ab7-47be-a3af-c3563c0cfcd8.png 466b80fd-2ab7-47be-a3af-c3563c0cfcd8.png so surely there should be half 375 and half 465 to make it better
    As they use the same service numbers
     
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  20. Bryer

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    The 465 has a maximum of 85 timetabled services, changing the livery just adds to the original one, you don't add them together...... So of 200 services the 375 is booked on, the chances of getting a 465 only apply to 85 of those services.

    Then in turn those 85 are randomly assigned to 465's.

    Would fact check, but sadly I'm streaming at the moment so can't check.
     
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    I dont agree with that likes
     
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    Well when the route came out there was 2 seperate ones for the 375 and they put them both together to get the 200 services. Surely the same would apply to the 465
     
  24. Bryer

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    It's simple maths. You're seeing more 465's in timetable mode than you did pre patch. You won't seem them outside of peak in my opinion because they won't sub those services as often as you want them to. I'm finding the amount of 465's just right for an accurate reflection on real life.

    Look at the lists for both 465's. I'm pretty sure the 85 list contains everything in the 50 something list. I can't fact check as I'm streaming.
     
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  25. stevenwalker1985

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    I just checked. The ones in the 51 list for the 465. None of them are in the 85 list for the 465.
     
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    Am seeing the same numbers as i did before the patch 51 and 85 = 136. Its proper confusing
     
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  27. Bryer

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    Yeah just checked you are correct, however I think the you'll see a 465 for every 4 or 5 375's.
     
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