Hamburg–lübeck Stats Now In The Steamdb

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  1. mclitke

    mclitke Well-Known Member

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    how did that stop them from putting BR 422 on SKA and BR 425 on HMA? Putting ICE 3 instead of a 1 or 2 seems absolutely plausible from what I have seen them doing so far.
     
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  2. helderbrincolas

    helderbrincolas Well-Known Member

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    Agree
     
  3. solicitr

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    Or for that matter, 143s hauling regionals anywhere other than RSN.
     
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  4. Jo_Kim

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    Yeah, that's true but I still don't think that layered content will get any scenarios outside of their original route.
     
  5. mclitke

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    That I agree with! Would not make sense at all.
     
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  6. seblay1608

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    The BR 422 operates on the S6 in Köln, this train on the S19 isn't that big problem. The BR 425 operates in munich on some other regional trains. The BR 403 or 406 are only on 300 km/h highspeed routes and the 403 was only one time as replace train in Hamburg (I think that was 2019?), this train isn't operating in Hamburg. The S19 drives every 20 Minutes, the BR 425 the half of the regional trains (every 60 Minutes). Thr ICE drives 2 times per day and direction (+ 2 IC trains). I don't think they are that important like the S19 or the Regional trains on HMA, so I would wait for (at least one) realistic ICE train (ICE 2 or ICE-T)
     
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  7. solicitr

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    It's also worth mentioning that the 422 and 423 are practically the same train; you have to get really close to tell the difference, and as an AI train in the background there's no effective difference at all.
     
  8. CowBoyWolf

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    btw forgot to say folks That Hamburg route will be called Hauptstrecke Hamburg to Lübeck
     
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  9. Jo_Kim

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    If it's called that I am questioning again why the abbreviation seems to be HBK and not HHL.
     
  10. WonterRail

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  11. solicitr

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    HMM. But that would be BHL. "Hamburg Bahnstrecke Lubeck" doesn't make much sense either.

    My guess? DTG has an internal abbreviation system which they try to keep consistent. H alone is Hauptstrecke, so they have to use HB for Hamburg. L also is already used for something, maybe London, so K is the fallback. No, that doesn't work either, because K has been used for Koln.

    Maybe it's just a portmanteau, Hambeck.........
     
  12. Jo_Kim

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    Well as a German HB for Hamburg is really strange because HB usually refers to Bremen (Hansestadt Bremen).
    Whilst the internal abbreviation will remain HBK (would be too much work to change everything) DTG should consider not using HBK in public.
     
  13. Swisstrains

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    Just wanted to tell (not sure whether it has been mentioned before) that the Br112 will get Dostos, but we have no answer whether they are the old ones or... well, the “old/recycled” ones
     
  14. Jo_Kim

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    I really hope we'll get to see some new Dostos in the game. Otherwise we would only get the BR 112 as a completely new locomotive and even it is pretty similar to the BR 143. The MRCE BR 182 model will differ a little bit from the existing BR 182 but that's not enough for a new route.
     
  15. helderbrincolas

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    422 and 423 are complety different ahahah. The 185.2, 185.5 and 146 are the ones which are practically the same
     
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  16. solicitr

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    422 and 423 have different headlights and that's about it.
     
  17. helderbrincolas

    helderbrincolas Well-Known Member

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    Ahahahah ok ok, not worth it having this discussion with u then
     
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  18. ZeenozPlays

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    For me, It's pretty easy to tell.

    Number 1, the whole cab looks different, with the 423 having different placements for the safety systems panel. It also has Analog Displays instead of Digital Displays right in-front of the operator.

    Number 2, the front of the 423 is shorter and more compact than it is on the 422.

    Number 3, the whole Passenger area is vastly different, with a totally different seating arrangement.

    Number 4, the Traction Motors sound completely different.

    Number 5, the Operators Desk on the 423 is higher than it is on the 422.

    And Number 6, the 422's brakes are much stronger than the 423's, causing operators to brake early and come into stations at a reduced speed.
     
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  19. solicitr

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    And as AI trains, none of that is a factor.
     
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  20. ZeenozPlays

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    Yeah, I can already see, It's not worth having this conversation.
     
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