I have seen a few mentions here and on rivets forum about this,and it was said to be a core issue that dtg needs to deal with,but on arosa even if the gradient detector is reversed. Chur to arosa is uphill Arosa to chur is downhill So even if it's reversed that doesn't mean it information is incorrect is it?(only the systems info needs to be read in reverses)if you know it is reversed then you can just use it that way,right? I can understand it's not accurate for how it is in the real ge 4/4 II but as a problem is it really make it's detecting of the gradients any harder to understand? Should it be fixed yes,but until then at least it still works,which is better then o i don't know not working at all.
I have found that the small train symbol on top of the gradient detector can help as well,as long as you know which end of your loco is the true front,you can tell if your going uphill or down.(even dual cab locos have one true front(at least in game)just look at the loco on the map veiw(you will see one end with a pointy nose and it can be pulling a train either way)just compare this to your gradient detectors train symbol and you should be able to tell up from down.
You don't have to look at the map, just look at the metal plate at the bottom below the cab door. The numer "I" is the front end. The number "II" is the rear end.
My favourite hint. The gradient number shows the gradient correctly when moving, only the train icon above it is reversed. So a negative number correctly shows a downhill grade and a positive number (no minus sign) accurately shows an uphill grade. So if you ignore the train icon, and just look at the number, you will always know the correct gradient. This works for all locos that show the gradient icon reversed. When you are stopped, it will show the gradient behind you, the same as the next speed limit and signal behind you are shown elsewhere in the HUD, but just like those indications do, the gradient numbers snap to the direction of travel once you are moving, and only the little train icon remains incorrect.
This must be one place where XBox players have an edge over PC! The PC version doesn't use a minus sign, we just get the percentage, uphill or down.
Really? How odd. It’s there on PS4 and it is very handy, but I don’t see why it would be different on PC. I’ve been giving all people advice that some people can’t even use. Some people must be thinking ‘What’s he babbling on about? minus sign, minus sign, there is no minus sign.’ Why must DTG do this to us? It makes no sense. Why is it different? So many questions.
BTW, I have read somewhere that there is a mod for the HUD accelerometer, making it readable, but it isn't on TSC. Anyone know where I can download it?
The gradient reversed issue is not specific for the Arosa line. It is a core gamedesign error. You also may see tyhe issue a lot at Tees Valley Line. We should not blame Rivet for this one, it is a DTG problem and the problem is much bigger than just the gradient. There are also issues with the next signal and the HUD showing wrong doors open.
For the arosa trains the train icon has always had it angled nose in the direction the cab in pointing.if the engines point is facing the cars it's pulling,so is the icon,if the cab point is facing forward so is the icon.when pulling the train,the grade detecter my be reversed but the train icon is still accurate with it's readings.
IIRC this was mentioned in one of the Arosa livestreams. The technical answer is that the gradient profile is not based upon the direction of travel but the position of cab "I". Hence if you are seated at the driving controls in cab "I" the gradient profile should be 'correct'. If you are seated at the driving controls in cab "II" the gradient profile should be 'reversed'. It was pointed out that with the Ge 4/4 II it is written near the footstep whether that end of the loco is cab "I" or cab "II". Something else I noticed in Arosa (but probably is the same on all routes) due to the 'meandering' nature of the route is that the distance to "Stop at" and "Go via" markers appears to be measured "as the crow flies". Whereas the next signal marker is measured in track distance. It was a bit disconcerting when I first noticed the distance to "Stop at" was increasing although I had yet to get to the next waypoint. (Being unfamiliar with the route and driving in snow I thought I had missed the next station?!) I've taken a few screenshots to demonstrate. The first images show #II end (marked on the kickplate below the cab door) leading from Chur and the 'reversed' gradient profile. Another service and #I end leading from Chur with the 'correct' gradient profile displayed. (As stated above the map can be used to identify the true front by the pointy end).
