What If Dtg Put New Haven And Harlem Line From Metro North On Train World Sim 2

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  1. keeganjohnson3

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    That would be a great idea every New Yorker is craving for these line
     
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    Add more detail like info of locos and stations
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Harlem Line probably the easier thing to do because it uses the same M3 & M7 as LIRR Hempstead Branch and Main Line Port Jefferson & Ronkonkoma Branch Hicksville to Penn Station Leg. In order to turn those LIRR M3 & M7 into Metro-North versions they need a Reskin from Yellow Exterior LIRR into Blue Metro-North Exterior paint
     
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    The LIRR M7 and M3 is not the same as the Metro North M7A and M3A. They have some technical and seating differences. I would like to see the MTA Metro North Railroad in tsw2. It would be a perfect American passenger route. It's a shame that we haven't gotten a American passenger route in 2 years
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for telling me but on the outside they look identical except for M7A which has a side duct for the HVAC Unit while the M3 Metro-North version it's exactly the same as in the Long Island Railroad except for the seating arrangement. For the Harlem Line you cannot operate 10-12 car M7A Grand Central to Southeast Brewster due to the substations lacking the necessary power for a 10-12 car M7A train. In timetable mode they must be operated by M3s 10-12 car train
     
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    Oh i know the exterior is pretty much the same apart from the Hvac on the M7A. I didn't know that the m3a could only go to Southeast in a 10 car formation because they take in less volts. I find that interesting. So I assume the M7A would have to be in a 6 or 8 car formation to go to Southeast
     
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    Having ridden the Harlem line (Bedford Hills to GCT) every day for many years it never struck me as having many points of interest. It certainly seemed less interesting than the Hudson, on one side, with its views and the Stamford line on the other with its more interesting mix of traffic. Then of course there are the Penn to NJ lines which have some interesting industrial landscapes as well.
    However its not a bad choice although the older stock was more varied and more interesting.
     
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    At least the M3A's still run along the line. Maybe if this line was made dtg could include the M3A and M7A and not have the M3A as a dlc since the M3A and M3 are pretty similar
     
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    For Dovetail Games they're going to do the cheap option add the M7A HVAC to the roof of LIRR M7 then put in the blue Metro-North Paint. The M3s are a different story because DTG needs to realize that Metro-North M3 uses M7 style seating unlike LIRR which still have 1987 seats. For the Harlem Line one of those scenarios might be called the Southeast Sunset where you must operate M7A Express to White Plains then Local to Southeast from White Plains. Timetable mode 6 & 8 car M7 to Southeast Brewster these operate Express to White Plains but 10-12 car trains are for Locals Grand Central North White Plains. M3s 8-12 cars Southeast Brewster trains Express to White Plains the reason for this is that M3s are ordered for the 1983 North White Plains Brewster Electrification project. Another DLC will bring in M9A however you cannot operate them in 10-12 car formations to Brewster Southeast due to substation capacity. Only confined to Grand Central North White Plains local
     
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    That would frankly not be a suprise if they just copy paste the lirr m7 and just put the hvac on the roof and repainted the train. Although the cab is different and the seats aren't the same from the M7 and M7A I believe. The M7A doesn't have a the same looking atc system. If they do make the M7A, tint the windows. Pretty much most trains have window tint in reality so if dtg can tint the windows on the ICE 3, then why can't they do that for other trains or newer trains. Heck the LIRR M7 and M3 have window tint
     
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    You are absolutely correct and speaking of the M3 Metro-North are the windows tinted like the LIRR Version in Real Life? What Dovetail Games will do for the M3 Harlem Line is take the LIRR version paint the exterior blue remove the 1980s seats then add M7 Metro-North style seats then leave the windows untinted like how it is for both M7 & M3 LIRR. However for New Haven line it's slightly easier for them they can probably take their existing TS21 M2 & M8 model then rework it to work on Train Sim World 2 NEC New York New Haven.
     
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    The M3A on the Metro-North Railroad does have window tint in real life as well as the M7A. The lirr m3 and m7 has tint as well
     
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