With so many British Rail TOPS classes from the period 1955 to present that have not yet been introduced to either Train Sim World or Train Simulator titles, I think it would be awesome to have various examples of these created as stand alone dlc for use on various routes based on the era in which the routes were set. I will provide a few examples below... GWB Class 35 Hymek Class 42 Warship Class 50 Hoover Class 117/121 DMU Class 123 Express DMU Class 128 Parcels DMU GWE Class 59/0 & /1 Locomotive Class 60 Locomotive Class 165/1 DMU Class 180 Express DMU Class 360 Heathrow Connect EMU TVL Class 56 Locomotive Class 142 Pacer DMU Class 143 Pacer DMU Class 150/2 Sprinter DMU NTP Class 25 Rat Class 44 & 46 Peak Class 123 Express DMU Class 124 Express DMU Class 128 Parcels DMU Class 141 Pacer DMU SEH Class 70 Diesel Locomotive Class 92 Electric Locomotive Class 376 EMU Class 377 EMU Class 465/0, /1, /2 & /3 EMU Class 466 EMU ECW Class 33/1 &/2 Crompton Class 73 Electro Diesel Locomotive Class 171 DMU Class 455/8 EMU Class 456 EMU IOW Class 03 Shunter Class 05 Shunter Class 485 & 486 EMU WSR Class 14 Teddy Bear Class 35 Hymek Class 120 Express DMU Class 22 Baby Warship (no survivors) Class 41 Warship (no survivors) These types, amongst others, would provide a wealth of variety on the routes we already have. Tell me your thoughts.
Excellent list but here's the problem for Class 332 & 360 Heathrow Airport EMUs is the British Airports Authority will not permit Dovetail Games to send a team to Heathrow Terminals 1-5 railway stations for Security reasons for proper measurements. On the other hand, Class 141 Pacer needs a proper 1983-1984 Paint to fit NTP like the picture below Class 142 for TVL needs the Two-tone paint since TVL is set in 1989
Pretty good list but one I would add is the Class 108 DMU, which were fairly ubiquitous and at some point we will get a UK route where they'd be right at home. ECW well a Class 205 Hampshire Thumper would be lovely, if maybe a little off route. Oh plus 4CIG and 4BIG, of course! SEH - a 4VEP and 4CEP/BEP in a heritage pack.
The first generation EMUs were not included due to ECW era but agreed these and 108s are a good choice.
The Pacers do need the early liveries that you mentioned in order to fit. As for the 360, these often ran from Paddington to Hayes and Harlington which would negate the need for the unobtainable Heathrow branch and hence my lack of mention of Class 332 units.
GWE: 332 fishbowl TVL: 60 (yes I know they entered service a year or two later than the route is set) and 156 sprinter
Think you could get away with a Class 55 Deltic on NTP. There's a loco I'd love to drive on TSW2 Dave
Only trouble is the 332 only called at Paddington and Heathrow so without the branch, there are no services for it. I did include the 60 on another route. The 156 are a good call.
33, 73, 455 and 456 would all be pretty useless on ECW considering they don't and didn't work the line when it's set in TSW. 73s are closest, but most RHTT work that way is done with 66s, and of course is very few seasonal services. Similarly, only the 377 of the stock proposed for SEHS would really be accurate for when the route is set, gets the odd 376 but rarely in service. Again because of the period, none of the IoW stock would be accurate, and similarly 120s have never worked over the WSR. Measuring stations is easy enough, the trouble is accurate gradient data and signalling information, the latter of which will now be challenging even with the cooperation of Heathrow due to the line's resignalling. Not to mention that the Heathrow branch would be pretty useless without ATP, and I don't see DTG implementing a completely now safety system (albeit one that should've been in the base GWE route), just for an extension.
The 120 did use this line in BR days and this, plus the fact that there are no survivors were my reasons for inclusion.
Why? The route is set last year, both classes were and still are rarely seen in that area. A 700 would be far more appropriate.
376 can't run past Gravesend on the North Kent lines except as empty stock because of the lack of toilets (so they're limited to services of 58 minutes or less) and don't run on the CML outside of zone 6 466 may well be done as a shortened version of the 465 even if this would be incorrect for the cab
I would love a 124/128 for NTP as they would fit right in and bring some slightly more obscure locos into the spotlight I just hope Dovetail notices we want locos/MUs like these in the games I also wanna say we don't need a class 44/46 as they are very similar to the class 45 but I feel something cosmetically different like Headcode Discs or Blind on them would be interested
Actually the first generation EMUS which are Mk1 derived can fit into ECW if there's a timetable service when the Class 377 entered service on ECW from the years 1999-2007 when the 1st generation EMUs are retired from ECW duties. The reason for this is very simple is that they don't meet the British equivalent of Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 that is the disability Discrimination Act 1995. Which means multiple units and railway carriages that haven't been retrofitted to comply with DDA 1995 must be retired to which the first generation trains fall under.
The 377 isn't the limiting factor here, it's the route itself. Signage, signalling and a few other details have changed since '63 stock' left service.