Map Of German, Dutch, Swiss And Austrian Route Suggestions

Good Point and the main link between the German Ruhr Valley routes with the Dutch Network Arnhem to Amsterdam is the Arnhem Emmerich Oberhausen Duisburg Railway . The Austrian Federal railways Network use the same PZB & LZB Sifa ask the German routes however the Rolling Stock and high speed trains will be different from the German routes we have.

 

Added it onto the map.

 

Added that one to the map aswell

 

I’ve commented previously on it - but i’ve suggested Hannover - Stendal and Lübeck - Puttgarden. Could you add these as well

 

I'll add them ASAP .

 

Thanks for adding in that route since that's where Amsterdam Basel ICE Line 78 Trains and Rotterdam Dillengen/Genoa Goods Trains go in or out of the Netherlands. By the way have you traveled on Arnhem Duisburg Railway pre covid-19? That route introduces players to NS Dutch Railways Abellio pasenger division

 

Haven't travelled there personally, as it's a rather indirect way to Germany from my home .

 

Thank you for telling me. What I can see regarding Arnhem Oberhausen Duisburg railway that can be sold as a bundle called Arnhem Würzburg High Speed so that players get Schnellfahrstrecke Würzburg Lohr Main Spessart Bahn Schnellfahrstrecke Rhein-Main Arnhem Duisburg Railway & Duisburg Köln Railway for a price of €29.99. Rather than buying those separately

 

I have travelled to the netherlands twice using only trains

 

I have now added these suggestions .

 

Apparently, Riesa-Dresden is planned to come to TSW 2: Rush Hour

 

I would suggest Munchen-Rosenheim-Kufstein-Innsbruck

 

Are you sure?
Nothing's been announced yet, and googling it I can't find anything.
I'm really curious what Rush Hour is going to bring, and I certainly haven't been quiet about my hopes for the Netherlands and Japan to be added with it. But I'm not willing to jump to conclusions based on speculation.

 

This is from a leak this morning which is about 99% certain to be legit. The three routes will be Dresden-Riesa, Boston-Providence and Victoria-Brighton

 

I see.
Is there anywhere still I can see this leak myself? Or has all 'evidence' been erased already?
I mean, if true I will confess some disappointment to these choices, although if Boston-Providence is real I'm glad Amtrak is getting back in probably.

 

This link will take you to an archived version of the site the leak was posted. It's apparently an official DTG site, and the routes do kinda make sense, so I'm also 99% sure it's real. I have mixed feelings about the choice of routes and rolling stock, but all sound interesting, so at a price of €29.99 for three routes, I'll probably be picking it up.

 

They accidentally leaked the full article today (we think)

 

"Inter-City Express" but no Trains used for IC or ICE Services

 

The 146.2 might come with IC2 dosto's, though I doubt that.

Probaly the IC and ICE services will be layers with the BR 101 from HRR and BR 403 from HMA.

The 146.2 with IC 2 dostos might be future DLC though.

The info above is incorrect, the 101 and 403 do not run on Riesa - Dresden IRL, and it's the 146.5, not the 146.2 that hauls the IC2 train sets.

All in a I'd like a route from the area around Dresden, having made a suggetion around there myself. That suggestion might benefit from Riesa - Dresden layers .

 

Good point and now we have the TSW 2020 NEC New York ACS-64 600-670 coming to TSW 2 after the rework. If DTG wanted a Rush Hour ÖBB Route then why not do S-Bahn Wien Salzburg & Innsbruck. That includes a reskined DB BR442 from Rapid Transit and Schnellfahrstrecke Köln-Aachen the ÖBB 4758. For ÖBB PIS those use Chris Lohner the voice on the DB BR182 in the ÖBB routes that's the ÖBB 1116. Even more hectic Rush Hour routes DTG needs to do NS Dutch Railways Amsterdam Arnhem Railway or your local Dutch line. Some of the routes in this forum have S-bahn services that will fit Rush Hour mode

 

The BR 146.2 are not used for Intercity Services. The BR 146.5 is

 

You're completely right, my bad .

 

Neither the IC1 (BR 101) nor ICE3 (BR 403) run on this route: just IC2 (BR 146.5 + Dostos) and ICE-T (BR 411)

 

Excuse me then, didn't do my homework on that route yet .

The IC2 and ICE-T do both sound like good loco add-ons though, as I like the idea both (the ICE-T way more), Although the IC2 might feel a bit same-ish, already having so many dosto-heavy routes in game.

 

The More Dostos DTG provides us, the more i dislike TSW 2. I would have some more variety of Coaches like the x-Wagen, n-Wagen + Wittenberger-/Karlsruher Kopf aswell as some other Locos other than a Traxx

 

I'd love to see a 111, 151, or one of the einheits e-loks, like the 110, 141, 140 and 150.

 

I think you could get away with 101s on BRD as they used to run there not so long ago (with a cab car of course, but you can get around it in this case as they went further beyond Dresden Hbf to washing stations). I think they still were there when VVO liveries on Talents 2 and Dostos started appearing.

 

They haven't said anything about when the route is set, so it might be plausible.

 

Owners of Risa Dresden if the Rush Hour update is actually correct can have their IC2 trains layer onto RWB Köln to Wuppertal via Solingen your suggestion in this thread. This video by Eisenbahn NRW und Deutschland shows IC2 from Risa Dresden on RRO & RWB

 

RRO & RWB does get einheits e-lok BR 110 here's a video from June 2020

 

I am aware, I made the suggestion for Köln - Wuppertal myself .

Altough, if you really want to see the Einheits E-loks in their full glory, a historical route like the two I made a suggestion for. (Naumburg - Saalfeld in the '90s and Frankfurt am Main - Marburg an der Lahn in the '90s.)

 

This is really helpful to picture how much of Germany is currently left out of the game. I've been considering doing a UK version but I simply don't have the patience

 

Will this be the next route after Hamburg Lübeck?

 

Its most likely (providing this turns out to be real, like we think) going to be in Rush hour so it will probably be the next German Route, yes.

 

Even though it's a really cool route I still want to have Wuppertal-Köln

 

Thanks

Are you sure it's going to be €29,99 for 3 routes though? Like TSW2 initial release.
From my understanding from what I've heard, Rush Hour itself is going to be a mostly free new feature coming to TSW2 in general and the routes that come with it are standalone routes like normal. So 3x€29,99.
Could be wrong though.

Do they?
I mean, the American one absolutely does. Especially after taking out Amtrak earlier, an Amtrak route is the obvious choice, especially with
the US already lacking in good passenger routes.

The UK, sure, they could've went with anything there really, but I've heard there's demand for Brighton mainline before, and I can imagine it's busy enough to accommodate Rush Hour very well.

However, I can't get over Bahnstrecke Riesa - Dresden honestly.
The only reason I can imagine is because it's also recently introduced in TS20xx, so the knowledge is still fresh.
The rolling stock though?
Quote: "Deutsche Bahn's BR 442, BR 143, BR 146.2 in DB livery and BR 185.5 in MRCE black livery on Bahnstrecke Riesa - Dresden."
We already have all of these!

Come to think of it, aside from the Class 387 which is basically just an electric Class 377/4 the only actually "new" train is the reintroduction of Amtrak ACS-64, which we already had before they decided not to add it in preserved collection.

Also, talking about Amtrak ACS-64, assuming it really is what they're going to do, I would say honestly, and I hope I'm not speaking out of term here, that people who have NEC for TSW original should be able to get a price deduction because they've basically paid twice for the exact same loco.

 

Rush Hour has no free features.
The Core update does, however.
Rush Hour is a bundle of routes, they may come Standalone eventually, we don't know yet.

 

The routes do come as a bundle for 29.99. The reason Riesa - Dresden makes sense is because of Covid. DTG has difficulity doing new route surveys, but as they've already done them for TS, they can use them for TSW routes.

I'm not complaining about the reusing of rolling stock on the routes. Yes, I'd like to see new stuff very much, but the stock is accurate (unlike on Hamburg - Lübeck), and at 29.99 for three routes you can't really complain.

I just hope that the reused rolling stock comes with new liveries too (for the Talent 2 and dostos this does seem to be the case, as they're getting a VVO livery as far as I know, but I'd like it on the 185 aswell).

 

New suggestion
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/hauptstrecke-leipzig-riesa.39691/

 

I've noted it, but as it will probably be announced oficcialy tomorrow, I'll hold of on adding it to the map, as I can add it as 'in production' immediately then.

 

It's now added to the map, I also changed the colour used for 'in production' routes.

 

Can you add this?
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/bellinzona-locarno-railway-swiss.31167/#post-205454

 

Why doesn't the route Dresden Risa continue to Leipzig, it would only be 30 or 40 km more

 

This map is a bit out of scale, it's actually quit a bit longer than 30-40 km (notice how the short distance between Dresden Hbf and Dresden-Neustadt seems ⅔ as long as the section between Dresden-Neustadt and Riesa). I might edit the map somehat later, as the scaling issue is really noticable on Riesa - Dresden.

Riesa-Dresden is already one of the longest routes, and adding the section to Leipzig Hbf, with it's many switches and tracks would be truly asking a little too much I think.

However, a Riesa - Leipzig route, that includes both the southern approach through the Leipzig CityTunnel and the northern approach into Leipzig Hbf's upper tracks, could be very interesting. Matt hinted yesterday that route mergers were still something they wanted to solve one day, so I might make a suggestion for Riesa - Leipzig soon.

 

I don't want to sound disrespectful, but that suggestion exists already.

 

That doesnt mean that they're not allowed to make a suggestion that already exists. Take a look at London to Brighton, there were alot of suggestions.

 

I'll add that one then, sorry, I hadn't seen it yet .

 

Yeah, I might do one myself on Riesa - Leipig later. Would really like to add a map and just put it in 'my format'. That's nothing against the existing suggestion, but just my stubbornness, as I do enjoy making the suggestions.

 

The full suggestion exists already from Leipzig to Dresden

 

And you make really good suggestions, I'm still really impressed of your Wuppertal Köln Suggestion