Brighton Mainline London Victoria/bridge To Brighton

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  1. elaineedwards2013

    elaineedwards2013 Well-Known Member

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    The Brighton main line (also known as the South Central main line) is a major railway line in the United Kingdom that links Brighton, on the south coast of England, with central London. In London the line has two branches, out of London Victoria and London Bridge stations respectively, which join up in Croydon and continue towards Brighton as one line. The line is electrified throughout using the third rail system.

    The network of services operated by Southern includes local suburban ("Metro") services in South London and regional services extending into the southern Home Counties. All routes are south of the river Thames, with the exception of the West London Route service, which crosses London via Shepherd's Bush and runs up the West Coast Main Line to Milton Keynes. Along with the Thameslink and future Crossrail route, this provides one of the few long-distance National Rail routes to run right across London instead of terminating at one of the London rail termini. Southern routes which do not serve London include the West Coastway and East Coastway Lines along the south coast of both East and West Sussex, Kent and Hampshire.


    Current fleet
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    Image Type Top speed Number Cars per set Routes operated Built
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    Southern

    171 Turbostar [​IMG]
    DMU 100 160 171/2 - 2 2 Oxted Line (Uckfield branch)
    Marshlink Line 2003– 2004
    171/4 - 2 4
    171/7 - 10[67] 2
    171/8 - 6[67] 4
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    313
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    EMU 75 120 19 3 West Coastway Line
    East Coastway Line 1976–1977
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    377 Electrostar
    EMU 100 160 377/1 - 62 4 Entire Southern network apart from Oxted to Uckfield and Ore to Ashford International 2001-2005
    377/2 - 15 4
    377/3 - 28 3
    377/4 - 75 4
    377/6 - 26 5 2012-2014
    377/7 - 8 [68] 5
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    455/8
    EMU 75 120 46 4 Metro and commuter services from London Victoria and London Bridge 1982–1984
     
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    elaineedwards2013 Well-Known Member

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    Details of each route, including maps and timetables. As of May 2020, the off-peak Monday-Saturday service pattern, with frequencies in trains per hour (tph), consists of:[56]

    Brighton Mainline
    Route
    tph Calling at Stock
    London Victoria to Littlehampton 2 Clapham Junction, East Croydon, Gatwick Airport, Haywards Heath, Burgess Hill, Hassocks, Preston Park, Hove, Portslade, Shoreham-by-Sea, Lancing (1tph), Worthing, West Worthing, Durrington-on-Sea, Goring-by-Sea, Angmering 377
    London Victoria to Eastbourne 1 Clapham Junction, East Croydon, Gatwick Airport, Haywards Heath, Wivelsfield, Cooksbridge, Lewes, Polegate, Hampden Park 377
    London Victoria to Ore 1 Clapham Junction, East Croydon, Gatwick Airport, Haywards Heath, Wivelsfield, Plumpton, Lewes, Polegate, Eastbourne, Hampden Park, Pevensey & Westham, Cooden Beach, Collington, Bexhill, St Leonards Warrior Square, Hastings
    Trains reverse at Eastbourne, and only call at Hampden Park once. 377
    London Victoria to Brighton 2 East Croydon, Gatwick Airport, Haywards Heath 377

    Arun Valley
    Route
    tph Calling at Stock
    London Victoria to Southampton Central and Bognor Regis via Crawley 1 Clapham Junction, East Croydon, Gatwick Airport, Three Bridges, Crawley, Horsham
    The two portions divide/attach at Horsham. 377
    Southampton Central portion:
    Barnham, Chichester, Southbourne, Emsworth, Havant, Cosham, Portchester, Fareham, Swanwick Bognor Regis portion:
    Christ's Hospital, Billingshurst, Pulborough, Amberley, Arundel, Ford, Barnham
    London Victoria to Portsmouth & Southseaand Bognor Regis via Crawley 1 Clapham Junction, East Croydon, Gatwick Airport, Three Bridges, Crawley, Horsham
    The two portions divide/attach at Horsham. 377
    Portsmouth & Southsea portion:
    Barnham, Chichester, Havant, Fratton Bognor Regis portion:
    Billingshurst, Pulborough, Arundel, Ford, Barnham

    Coastway East
    Route
    tph Calling at Stock
    Brighton to Lewes 2 London Road, Moulsecoomb, Falmer 313
    Brighton to Seaford 2 London Road, Moulsecoomb, Falmer, Lewes, Southease (1tph), Newhaven Town, Newhaven Harbour (limited), Bishopstone 313
    Brighton to Hastings 1 Moulsecoomb, Falmer, Lewes, Berwick, Polegate, Hampden Park, Eastbourne, Hampden Park (Brighton-bound only), Pevensey & Westham (Brighton-bound only), Bexhill, St Leonards Warrior Square
    Trains reverse at Eastbourne. Trains call at Hampden Park once towards Hastings but twice towards Brighton. 377
    or 387
    Brighton to Ore 1 Falmer, Lewes, Glynde, Polegate, Eastbourne, Hampden Park (Ore-bound only), Pevensey & Westham (Ore-bound only), Bexhill, St Leonards Warrior Square, Hastings
    Trains reverse at Eastbourne. Trains call at Hampden Park once, towards Ore only. 377
    or 387
    Eastbourne to Ashford International 1 Hampden Park, Pevensey & Westham, Pevensey Bay (limited), Normans Bay, Cooden Beach, Collington, Bexhill, St Leonards Warrior Square, Hastings, Ore, Three Oaks(1tp2h), Doleham (limited), Winchelsea (1tp2h), Rye, Appledore, Ham Street
    Three Oaks and Winchelsea are served by alternate trains. 171

    Coastway West
    Route
    tph Calling at Stock
    Brighton to Hove 2 313
    Brighton to West Worthing 2 Hove, Aldrington, Portslade, Fishersgate, Southwick, Shoreham-by-Sea, Lancing, East Worthing, Worthing 313
    Brighton to Southampton Central 1 Hove, Portslade, Southwick, Shoreham-by-Sea, Lancing, Worthing, West Worthing, Durrington-on-Sea, Goring-by-Sea, Angmering, Ford, Barnham, Chichester, Emsworth, Havant, Cosham, Fareham, Swanwick 377
    Brighton to Portsmouth Harbour 1 Hove, Portslade, Southwick, Shoreham-by-Sea, Lancing, Worthing, Angmering, Barnham, Chichester, Southbourne, Emsworth, Havant, Fratton, Portsmouth & Southsea 377
    Littlehampton to Portsmouth & Southsea 1 Ford, Barnham, Chichester, Fishbourne, Bosham, Nutbourne, Southbourne, Emsworth, Warblington, Havant, Bedhampton, Hilsea, Fratton 313
    Littlehampton to Bognor Regis 1 Ford, Barnham 313
    Barnham to Bognor Regis 1 313
     
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  3. elaineedwards2013

    elaineedwards2013 Well-Known Member

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    Oxted
    Route
    tph Calling at Stock
    London Victoria to East Grinstead 2 Clapham Junction, East Croydon, Sanderstead, Riddlesdown, Upper Warlingham, Woldingham, Oxted, Hurst Green, Lingfield, Dormans 377
    London Bridge to Uckfield 1 East Croydon, Oxted, Hurst Green, Edenbridge Town, Hever, Cowden, Ashurst, Eridge, Crowborough, Buxted 171

    Redhill
    Route
    tph Calling at Stock
    London Victoria to Reigate 2 Clapham Junction, East Croydon, Purley, Coulsdon South, Merstham, Redhill 377
    Redhill to Tonbridge 1 Nutfield, Godstone, Edenbridge, Penshurst, Leigh 377

    West London
    Route
    tph Calling at Stock
    Milton Keynes Central to Clapham Junction 1 Bletchley, Leighton Buzzard, Tring, Berkhamsted, Hemel Hempstead, Watford Junction, Harrow & Wealdstone, Wembley Central, Shepherd's Bush, Kensington (Olympia), West Brompton, Imperial Wharf 377

    Metro
    Route
    tph Calling at Stock
    London Victoria to Dorking(and Horsham) via Carshalton 2 Clapham Junction, Carshalton, Sutton, Cheam, Epsom, Ashtead, Leatherhead, Box Hill & Westhumble (1tph);
    1tph extended to/from Horsham, calling at Holmwood, Ockley and Warnham
    Box Hill & Westhumble is served by trains to/from Horsham. 377
    London Victoria to Epsom via Carshalton 2 Clapham Junction, Balham, Mitcham Eastfields, Mitcham Junction, Hackbridge, Carshalton, Sutton, Cheam, Ewell East 377
    London Victoria to Sutton (and Epsom Downs) via Norbury 4 Battersea Park, Clapham Junction, Wandsworth Common, Balham, Streatham Common, Norbury, Thornton Heath, Selhurst, West Croydon, Waddon, Wallington, Carshalton Beeches;
    2tph extended to/from Epsom Downs, calling at Belmont and Banstead. 377
    or 455
    London Victoria to West Croydon via Gipsy Hill 2 Battersea Park, Clapham Junction, Wandsworth Common, Balham, Streatham Hill, West Norwood, Gipsy Hill, Crystal Palace, Norwood Junction 377
    London Victoria to London Bridge via Gipsy Hill 2 Battersea Park, Clapham Junction, Wandsworth Common, Balham, Streatham Hill, West Norwood, Gipsy Hill, Crystal Palace
    Services continue to London Bridge via Sydenham (see below). 377
    London Bridge to London Victoria via Sydenham 2 New Cross Gate, Brockley, Honor Oak Park, Forest Hill, Sydenham, Crystal Palace
    Services continue to London Victoria via Gipsy Hill (see above). 377
    London Bridge to Coulsdon Town via Sydenham 2 New Cross Gate, Brockley, Honor Oak Park, Forest Hill, Sydenham, Penge West, Anerley, Norwood Junction, East Croydon, South Croydon, Purley Oaks, Purley, Reedham 455
    London Bridge to Epsom 2 Norwood Junction, West Croydon, Waddon, Wallington, Carshalton Beeches, Sutton, Cheam, Ewell East 377
    London Bridge to Caterham and Tattenham Corner 2 East Croydon, South Croydon, Purley Oaks, Purley
    The two portions divide/attach at Purley. 377
    Caterham portion:
    Kenley, Whyteleafe, Whyteleafe South Tattenham Corner portion:
    Reedham, Coulsdon Town, Woodmansterne, Chipstead, Kingswood, Tadworth
    London Bridge to Caterham via Peckham Rye and Norbury 2 South Bermondsey, Queens Road Peckham, Peckham Rye, East Dulwich, North Dulwich, Tulse Hill, Streatham, Streatham Common, Norbury, Thornton Heath, Selhurst, East Croydon, Purley, Kenley, Whyteleafe, Whyteleafe South 377
    or 455
    London Bridge to Beckenham Junction via Peckham Rye 2 South Bermondsey, Queens Road Peckham, Peckham Rye, East Dulwich, North Dulwich, Tulse Hill, West Norwood, Gipsy Hill, Crystal Palace, Birkbeck
     
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  4. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Excellent idea and if Dovetail games are able to get the licensing from Great Northern thameslink the parent company that owns then you can have Class 700 trains. They operate brighten Gatwick airport London Victoria King's Cross Cambridge Peterborough then the other branch which goes up the Midland Mainline to Bedford.
     
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    This suggestion is quite hard to read the service pattern, although I do support this route.

    The Brighton Mainline is missing a significant number of services, including Thameslink throughout from East Croydon to Various locations and Gatwick Express services that run between Brighton, Gatwick Airport and London Victoria.

    Hopefully it can be added at some point!
     
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  6. elaineedwards2013

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    Sorry, I wasn’t able to find anything about Thameslink. I will try.
     
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    Horsham to Peterborough 2 per hour
    Gatwick Airport to Bedford 2 per hour
    Brighton to Bedford 2 per hour
    Brighton to Cambridge 2 per hour
     
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    elaineedwards2013 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks
     
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    Definitely.... seems to be a really highly requested route in the recent few months. Would recommend that they added Keymer Junction to Lewes as well, because that would create the Triangle
     
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    I believe GoVia is the parent company of GTR which includes Thameslink, Southern, Great Northern and Gatwick Express. The firm also have the Southeastern franchise. Essentially, they're all the same company but I don't know how licensing works. Given they've got licenses for two of GoVia's operating companies I don't think negotiating for the others would be too difficult however I'm sure it's more complicated than that
     
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    That Explains to why they are able to get East Coast Way Southern and Southeast High Speed London St Pancras down to Gillingham due to a Govia deal for Southern Rail and Southeast Services. If Dovetail Games was able to expand their licensing agreement with Govia then we can get this route London Victoria to Brighton Thameslink Cambridge to Gatwick Airport. The best thing that Dovetail Games can do is bundle London Brighton with Thameslink bridge to Gatwick Airport Southeast high speed and East Coastway for $29.99. For the European user I expect it to be something like £20.00 & €25.00 that's $30 in their local Currency.
     
  12. formulabee#1362

    formulabee#1362 Well-Known Member

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    Will be pleased to know the Brightonainline in its entirety will be featured as part of rush hour
     
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    Can we see proof please
     
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    [​IMG]
    article was accidently released, but was then removed
    the brighton mainline will feature GATEX class 387's and Southern class 377/4
     
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  15. elaineedwards2013

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    Is this article Rush Hour? Also, is this true (Rush Hour)?
     
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    Yep- they accidentally posted it on their website, removed two hours ago
     
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    elaineedwards2013 Well-Known Member

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    So, the Brighton Mainline is part of rush hour.
     
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    Yes
     
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    YAY! Though... I can't tell if the branch to Lewes will be included to connect it to ECW... it doesn't look like it will be :(
     
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    Unfortunately not, however the article said they would be adding improved ai passengers to other routes
     
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    I knew it. Yessssss
     
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    How much lobbying will we need to do to get the Lewes line in ;P
    Better passenger AI is appreciated though
     
  23. formulabee#1362

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    Thanks Monder for quoting this from the article :) 69A0ECC9-2F6C-4036-941A-08CA4F1FAA69.jpeg
     
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    upload_2021-5-2_12-42-45.jpeg
    I knew it! The Brighton Mainline and Bahnstrecke Riesa-Dresden were coming to Rush Hour. Yes! I was right, I knew they were coming!
     
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    NEC is coming after all!
     
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    Completely different section, though. Boston, not New York.
     
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    I’m very surprised the leaks on the forums not been deleted I still think there will be a lot of hype on Tuesday if DTG article confirming this was all true
     
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    The hype is over for Tuesday :D
    Because today is the real day to enjoy :cool:
     
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    I just voted Yes in the poll, because I am starting to think NEC Boston isn't too unlikely.
     
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    London to Brighton finally coming to TSW 2
     
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    Do you think we will able to drive the DB BR 101 on Bahnstrecke Riesa-Dresden, just like in Train Simulator on PC?
     
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    Probably
     
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    Why are some (lot) people saying it is fake? I am confused, if this is true or it is all fake.
     
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    Because it was released before the announcement date, but it was just An accident as they probably pressed publish instead of save draft
     
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    So, you mean it is all fake?
     
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    No, it’s true. Why would they put that much effort into something that it’s fake. The screenshots look legitimate and the ai passengers look different
     
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    No one absolutely knows, it was visible to some people on the Wayback machine and appeared to be a bona fide DTG web URL.
     
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    Oh ok.
     
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    Very Good Point.
     

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