Tsw2- Db Br 411 ‘ice T’ For Riesa To Dresden

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  1. MrSouthernDriver

    MrSouthernDriver Well-Known Member

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    DBAG Class 411 and Class 415 are German tilting electric multiple-unit high-speed trains in service with DB Fernverkehr,
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    interior of the ICE T
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    The cab of the ICE T

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    ICE T passing Dresden-Bischofsplatz


    These trains will run ICE services between Riesa And Dresden
     
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  2. Jo_Kim

    Jo_Kim Well-Known Member

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    Let's get into some more detail:
    As you might have noticed the ICE T has two different BR numbers associated with it.
    The BR 411 is the longer seven-car unit that was first built in 1996 and is the most commonly found of the two classes (60 units built, 59 remaining).
    The BR 415 is the shorter five-car unit that was first built in 1999 and is used to supplement the seven-car units (11 units).
    The BR 411 was constructed in two separate series. The second series was built in 2002 and only had minor differences from the first one. The most obvious differences were the LED headlights (the first series was upgraded to these as well) and the changed window arrangement. The first series has built-in fake windows between the real ones, while the second series has a black painted strip.
    Example:
    First series
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    Second Series
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    The ICE T also shares a very similar design to the ICE 3 (BR 403 / 406). As they were constructed by the same manufacturers at the same time this becomes obvious.
    Comparison between ICE 3 and ICE T:
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    All trains are equipped with SiFa, PZB 90, LZB 80/16, ETCS and GNT(ZUB 262). Special units used for traffic in Switzerland also have Integra-Signum, and ZUB 121 installed.
    With its active tilting system, the ICE T is capable of achieving up to a 30% speed increase through curves. The system automatically activates above 70km/h and is monitored by the GNT system (Geschwindigkeitsüberwachung Neigetechnik = Speed surveillance tilting system). GNT uses special balises on the right side of the track (ZUB 122) or Eurobalises (ZUB 262) to transmit the current speed restriction to the train and information about upcoming PZB magnets that can be ignored.
    Active tilting:
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    The national rail operator of Austria ÖBB also owns three of these ICE T, which was classified as BR 4011. They are operated the same way as the German units and are mixed in with the German part of the fleet in the international services between Germany and Austria.
    ÖBB unit:
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  3. jolojonasgames

    jolojonasgames Well-Known Member

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    The ICE-T would be a really fun addition, I'd love to see tilting trains.

    Jo_Kim, great information, as always :).
     
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  4. drnicktgm#1259

    drnicktgm#1259 Well-Known Member

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    Really great suggestion, but I have a question, Did the cab for the ICE T get update with monitores for speed and LZB like in the updated ICE3?
     
  5. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    I would love to see the ice t on BRD. What I don't get is why dtg can't include this train in the base route. All of the trains included in BRD are effectively recycled trains so this would only be the one new train that would have to be made. It's not as if brd is coming with several new trains anyways so I don't get why they decided not to make the ICE T a base train for brd
     
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  6. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Excellent idea here MrSouthernDriver and for the destination display it's going to say Frankfurt Am Main Hbf via Fulda Bebra Erfurt Leipzig & Riesa ICE Line 50 from Dresden. Towards Dresden it's the reverse order Frankfurt Am Main Fulda Bebra Erfurt Leipzig Riesa Dresden. If made the tilting mechanism from the DB BR411 415 ÖBB4011 can be then put on to the Acela express for boston-providence Legends of NEC or Avelia Liberty Boston to Providence into the future pack.
     
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  7. Jo_Kim

    Jo_Kim Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the ICE T got its speedometer replaced with a screen when equipped with ETCS similar to the ICE 3 included in HMA.
     
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