Britain's Bus On Rails Is History

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  1. Jo_Kim

    Jo_Kim Well-Known Member

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  2. fabdiva

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    Finally! Now for the older Sprinters (which are hot and noisy and very much not up to modern expectations)
     
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    Yep high time tsw2 had pacers
     
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    This is what TVL Needs because in the 1980s pacers were ordered to replace the ageing class 101 dmus. Just needs a 1989 paint to fit into TVL
     
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    Weird how the class 101 DMU still looks the more modern.
     
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    I used to travel on a pacer every day to work (thankfully I usually got a 125 back) and they were horrible trains. The ones in Geoff’s video at least have proper train seats. The ones I travelled on were like buses inside as well. Good riddance to them in my opinion.

    Having said that, I often drive one in TS2021 so there must be a bit of nostalgia in my head somewhere.
     
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    My most vivid memory of them, aside from having the unpleasant experience of travelling in one, is arriving in Cardiff Queen Street in the rain and seeing one parked up in the greyness bearing the nameplate mentioned in the video "Sir Tom Jones" (not even a metal one, a sticker!), and I couldn't think of anything that could be more of an insult than being told you were having a train named after you only to discover it was one of these things.

    Here it is, in all its horrid bleakness.

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    Dear God, how did those PsOS stay in service so long?
     
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    I’ve got to be honest I much prefer a National bus.( A Leyland National bus was the name of the bus who’s body the original pacer used )
     
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    One thing to be said regardless of what side of marmite debate people on regarding pacers there’s no denying the pacers reliability hence why they in service so long
     
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    153’s are my least favourite train. Thanks God they don’t operate with greater Anglia any more
     
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    They were never that reliable - they had a complete new drive train and engine fitted after less then 5 years in service, and reliability wise they were always sub 10,000miles per casualty (problem causing a 5 min or more delay) - for comparisons the 159s were around 150,000 mpc
     
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    As Sir Tom Jones once sang “Why, why, why, the pacer?” Still no answer from the powers that be.

     
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    Pembroke to Swansea on a bus seat fitted 143 was nauseating, the full nodding donkey experience.

    They are a fitting monument to the government of the time and their attitude to the railways.
     
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    Sad to see these go , but also glad . It’s east to love and hate pacers at the same time
     
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