My Rush Hour Protest

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by Mattty May, Jul 21, 2021.

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  1. Yes, of course.

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  2. Absolutely not.

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  1. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't even be suprised if Brighton Main Line was cut although that wouldn't be a good idea. The bean counters are just the DTG executives
     
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    It's not a law by any means, September 1st is the end of the meteorological summer which was made up by meteorologists and climatologists to easily define seasons by complete calendar months because the real seasons don't last the same amount of days all the time. The astronomical summer actually ends on September 22nd this year but you're right in saying that astronomical seasons are correct.
     
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    Not a chance a UK company will cut a UK route especially considering its the most accessible and most cost effective route for them to make, unless they have terrible bean counters If a route was to be cut it would be the US one.
     
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  4. Crosstie

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    Why is that?
     
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    Because given logistics, especially during Covid, it will be a far more expensive route both financially and hours in of research to make than one that's almost on their doorstep. It's just common sense for a business, when money is their motivation, to cut loose the biggest financial drain instead of the least.
     
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    You do know that route is literally getting previewed next week on the livestreams right?

    If they cut that route now especially with all the preview shots AND the preview stream next week, it would cause a major uproar from the NA community.
     
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  7. stephen220378

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    I didn't say it wasn't coming out at any time. I was replying to someone who stated that they wouldn't be surprised if the Brighton Main Line was cut, my point was if DTG had any intention of cutting a route at any point it wouldn't be one a stones throw away from their offices and would be the one that would make the least financial sense to continue with.
     
  8. trainsimplayer

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    But I makes more financial sense to continue with it saying as it's practically done.

    Boston (as far as I'm aware) was taken in from someone developing it themselves anyway.
     
  9. stephen220378

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    They're all practically done and have been from way before they announced Rush Hour. Probably the reason Boston is first up so they don't have to spend time and money on the most expensive route anymore.

    So DTG didn't bother sending a team out there to take pictures, videos, sound samples? Because Polyphony Digital send an entire team out for weeks to get just one cars data for GT Sport. It's not really a simulation then if they haven't went out their own way to simulate it
     
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  10. trainsimplayer

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    You completely missed the point there.

    The route wasn't built by DTG from scratch, someone was building it and some things happened and they agreed to have DTG add it to TSW.

    Or so I think was said.
     
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  11. stephen220378

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    Somebody started it, DTG still need to spend money on research which includes going over there with a team, cameras and sound equipment etc and collect data if they are making a proper sim and not just regurgitating a fan mod for themselves
     
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    The research for the ACS64 was already done for NEC New York some years ago.
     
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    That's not the Boston route
     
  14. Blacknred81

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    An ACS-64 is an ACS-64, DTG could easily just convert the NEC on TSW2020 version for Boston, it would just need to be tweaked for TSW2.

    Would probably be quicker than rebuilding it from scratch.
     
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    I believe it's been roughly three months since we all saw that first amazing Rush Hour teaser graphic. Has there been any announcement of a release date for any of this content? Sorry if I missed it, I'm not on these boards often.
     
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  16. Mattty May

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    No release date yet. There is a teaser of Boston Providence on Thursday.
     
  17. trainsimplayer

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    None yet, sadly, however Boston Providence (First Release) is likely to be within the next few weeks, as there is a preview stream this Thursday.
     
  18. Coastway trainspotter

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    I reckon the 19th of august
     
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    How is that true? PC is much better because it is more suited for a game such as TSW2, than consoles. It is not DTG's fault for not bringing something which is in PC to a console, simply because they are meant for PCs. This is my opinion.

    I feel TSW2 has a big advantage because its on consoles too, unlike other train simulation games. All differences aside, Im glad we have a fairly big community across other platforms as well.
     
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  20. stujoy

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    That’s at least the sixth time you have ‘predicted’ that date. Yet, on one occasion when someone else predicted that date you asked why they predicted such a late date, because you also predicted other earlier dates too. Any predictions for the date Christmas will be this year?
     
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  21. aglomarsale

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    Sorry
     
  22. trainsimplayer

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    You say "everyone" when a lot of people think it to be other dates. It releases when it releases, you'd all be complaining if it was released a month ago and was rushed, wouldn't you?
     
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    I wasn’t talking to you, I was being salty to someone else :D
     
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  24. aglomarsale

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    I see what you did there xD

    Now we need chips
     
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  25. Coastway trainspotter

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    1: is there a problem with me predicting a date ?
    2: When someone said the 19th that was before the season ticket was announced , so it seemed quite late
    3: just don’t comment EVERY time I make a prediction , there’s no reason why I can’t
     
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  26. Coastway trainspotter

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    Right here
     
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  27. trainsimplayer

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    aglomarsale whilst your at it, how about you quit rating everything helpful, even when it isn't in the slightest. It's quite frustrating, especially when this happens: Screenshot_20210803_103541.jpg
    All it does is clogs up my alerts bit and it becomes more awkward for me the scroll to more meaningful stuff, especially when there are multiple.
     
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  28. stujoy

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    That spanner icon size needs sorting out. The like icon and the long gone dislike icon used to be the same size too. Scrolling through notifications was so frustrating. I try not to be too helpful now just in case someone gives me a spanner award ;)
     
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  29. Lamplight

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    I was tempted there, stujoy :D
     
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  30. trainsimplayer

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    1) Read stujoy's post again, mainly the bit I put in bold.
    You have repeatedly question people's own predictions down when they didn't align with yours, and if you had taken a proper look at Stujoy's post, you would realise that was half the issue, instead of blanking it out.

    2) The season pass' first release date (update and Boston) would have been the original release of the Rush Hour bundle.

    The Season Pass is to buy DTG more time, not push things forward and backwards.

    3) there's a difference between being able to make predictions and banging on about it. The way you often portray is borderline claiming it will be.
     
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  31. Coastway trainspotter

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    I don’t mean any offence , but most of that is not what I meant at all , and I know what the season pass is for . I’m not an idiot . Let’s leave this here before it turns into an argument please
     
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  32. aglomarsale

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    I was not aware of that. Sorry! I initially did it as a joke.
     
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    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Rating my post that you replied to helpful is just blatant ignorance of my point.
     
  34. Coastway trainspotter

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    It’s also not funny , aglomarsale has also wasted your time and mine
     
  35. borg#1850

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    Why doesn't everyone just wait and stop speculating about something they know nothing about. I have to say for myself it is annoying. It will come out when they release it.
     
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  36. Coastway trainspotter

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    1. We do know what the plan for BRD is
    2. Because if we take action now there may be time to fix BRD later
     
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  37. trainsimplayer

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    I think they are refering to the release predictions. It's what this thread has been derailed into...
     
  38. Coastway trainspotter

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    Pun intended ? Anyway , I think DTG can still delay BRD for as long as they want to bring back the branches
     
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    Me too. It was hard to wrench my finger away from that icon when I read your post. :D
     
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    Sorry, matjamca, your thread has been seriously derailed. To get back on topic, I have to say that your protest, though well taken, has also been somewhat sidetracked by the fact that Riesa - Dresden is part of a bundle that most of us find hard to resist, even while we empathize with your disappointment. The other routes are simply too enticing. I hope that the situation can be resolved in a positive way. If not, we'll have to move on. I hope you can too.
     
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    I don't see, why the other two routes are too enticing. After the branches were cut on Dresden Riesa, all routes have nearly the same content, 80km of track for A to B runs, around 17 stations, a short branchline, some diversified service pattern, with recycled locos and that's what you get with any of the routes. If you don't like A to B runs, then no route would be enticing for you. Shouldn't make any difference if it's A2B, D2R, B2P or L2B.
     
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    Some of us are weaker. :)
     
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    I totally deserve it.
     
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    Well, yes. Exactly. A-B has been fun for quite a while, but the bloom is coming off the rose. Without innovation and variety, player ennui sets in; and once one already has a lot of A-B German routes one becomes less and less enthusiastic about the prospect of buying yet another. Why should I buy the cut-down Riesa-Dresden if I already have MSB, RSN, RRO, HRR, SKA and HMA?
     
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    But it's not only a german problem. Why should I buy Boston Providence, if I already got Peninsula Corridor? And why London to Brighton, when I already got East Coastway and Southeastern Highspeed? All of them are only A to B runs. Not really a valid argument, saying I don't buy the german route because it's boring A to B, but the boring US/UK A to B runs I will find superb.
     
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    You have a point, but the problem is more acute with German routes because it's all the same rolling stock. At least Boston-Providence brings in the ACS-64 (and a modified variant of the F40PH with different coaches). Also, I never said that the UK and US runs will be "superb" (although NEC will in fact have branches).

    I am saying that, generally, DTG have to come up with routes which are not just A-B. R-D was originally advertised this way, but that bright glimmer of hope has now been snuffed out and we're back to the same old same old.
     
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  47. aglomarsale

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    I agree with you, uh Bill. I mean- The ACS-64 will have new sounds and so will the Gatwick express electrostar, and the cab car of the purple F40PH thing. Other than that, pretty much everything else is recycled.
     
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  48. tallboy7648

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    Hopefully after rush hour we will get routes with brand new trains instead of trains similar trains already in game
     
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  49. aglomarsale

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    Yep, that would be much needed.
     
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    How do you tell that we are getting the electrostar version? I don't remember seeing it. Hopefully it is because i like newer train model better than old model.
     
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