Hey everyone, Saw this on Instagram, could be a possible teaser to Avanti coming to TSW2. Also one of the comments that Avanti could be confirmation or not.
Yeah I saw that on Twitter and asked them directly. Got no response ha ha This would be great tho but hopefully WCML North
Do not give me hope... The WCML South from Euston to Milton Keynes (or ideally Birmingham New Street) is one of if not my MOST wanted route in TSW2. Seeing Pendolinos in ANY capacity in TSW2 would be a dream come true.
Sounds interesting, but, for me personally, any WCML route would have to include London Northwestern Railway services. I would not want a Euston or Birmingham New Street being empty without loads of commuter trains to make the route feel alive - especially once we have experienced the upcoming Rush Hour routes.
IF true - a big if - then it suggests that DTG have been working on modeling tilting trains, which would be essential if they were to bring out the Acela or ICE-T
I doubt a route of that length would be made considered any time soon. The major station's miles and miles apart, and DTG already attempted the WCML in TS and we all know how that turns out upon release. Don't get me wrong I'd love the WCML in-game but doubt it would be to a good standard unfortunately.
Oh I agree. I'd definitely want the route with 390s AND 350s, but I'd still rather have the route with only 390s than not at all.
I think Euston to Milton Keynes would be a fair distance? About 30 minutes for fast services and up to an hour for stopping services. That's the sweet spot for TSW2 routes, and puts it around the same length time wise as BML and SEHS.
Routes over 100 miles long would take ages, I think people would much rather have multiple routes put out a year than have one long route. At least then we have options instead of a long route that hasn't turned out well.
Going back to the actual post, I do find it interesting that Avanti have acknowledged TSW by responding to a seemingly random comment. Not to mention that it's a strange caption to put on a simple picture of a cab. Not getting my hopes up though lol.
They do do some strange tweets, so I wouldn’t read anything into it. There is always the possibility that the WCML will appear in TSW as many of us have asked for various parts of it, but this is probably unconnected to that. The full picture has the ‘driver’ holding two levers, which with some imagination are a bit like the sticks on a PS controller. As I said, their tweets are all a bit strange. I did like the reply that corrected ‘train station’ to ‘railway station’ though.
There was the recent Avanti West Coast ML route for TS Classic so you would hope that Avanti are all good licensing wise to have their stuff in TSW2. pure speculation but wouldn’t it be great if they made the WCML in several parts as different route releases which you could choose to own as many or as few as you wanted, then they overcame the technical hurdle they currently have to link routes together. We can wish right?
TS21 Westcoast Mainline and the Class 221 and 390 both from Avanti. It’s only need to better reworked because the quality was poor from the Performance
Pretty obvious, dtg released the wcml south featuring awc and lm. Consequently they would have done research for the route. They won’t release routes that don’t have research done because how are they meant to make a route and trains without research?
Of course this would also mean the route between Bushey and Watford via Watford High Street would need to be modelled for the commuter trains. If this was the case, I wonder if we could have Bakerloo trains going to Watford Junction as they did years ago, particularly if using the upcoming 1938 stock. Probably not as they would need to merge the two routes but it would be interesting. The workaround would be to drive Bakerloo from Elephant to Harrow, then switch routes and use scenario planner to drive your Bakerloo train to Watford J.
It would be much more appropriate for the commuter representation of the route to be from LNWR's Class 350s, as they run all the way to Milton Keynes and beyond, as opposed to the London Overground which only go as far as Watford Junction. For the sake of scenery I'd expect the stations and track of the Watford DC lines to be modelled but not much more. They wouldn't be stations you could explore. Perhaps Bakerloo trains could run as AI traffic up to Harrow and Wealdstone though.
Which, if true, begs the obvious question. Why get the license if you aren’t going to do anything with it? There is hope for Merseyrail yet.
It makes absolute sense to start to try and build tilting trains, even if it has an "high initial cost" they can now use this tech for the ICE-T (HHL), and the Acela in NEC. Always loved the 390, if this is true I can't wait for their introduction
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I should’ve worded my response better . I thought that DB628 meant that dtg had done research for the WCML for TSW already , but hadn’t done a dlc for it . I was not aware that the TS WCML only released a year ago . Just please never overestimate how obvious something is , it might not appear so obvious to others
It would be more appropriate to have both. The inner urban commuter route is run by LO, the outer urban and regional services are LNWR I don't see it as "more appropriate" to run LNWR services up the DC lines, so you're either suggesting something else or missing out half a dozen stations
I doubt it takes much less research to do DLC for TSC, more likely the capability of the software is (slightly) less but it takes just as much. I remember a few years back where they posted a set of research pics and it included everything down to the tarmac that made up the platform
Hahaha it’s means nothing. The social media people for train companies tend to be enthusiasts so they will probably know about TSW and they are just illustrating that they understand Aussie_gunzel’s joke.
Have to say the ECML is noticeable for not having any routes. Kings Cross to Peterborough / Cambridge / Moorgate would be a route I would certainly buy. Well I can wish.
That can't be the list for all of their licenses unless it's outdated. Noticed that BNSF is on there?
I think I misworded my post. I think that in this hypothetical route there would be no services on the Watford DC lines, and the 350s would be on the mainline alongside the 390s working the more regional services. The DC lines would merely be scenery, just like how the WCML currently is on the Bakerloo line.
You need to finally stop being so impolite and stop demand everything like anyone owes you anything. Your posts are filled with toxicity and it really starts to be annyoing.
That does throw a spanner into the works somewhat. But then why would a BNSF file exist if there is no license for it? Maybe they’ve managed to get one. Sadly, this is all speculation until DTG announces anything.
DTG does have a BNSF licence for TS21 but it can only be sold to US customers. Non-US customers get the locos etc unbranded. DTG also holds the Avanti West Coast licence for TS21 for the Class 390 Pendolino as that route was released about a year ago. As DTG have often stated, just because they have a licence for use in one of their games, it doesn't necessarily mean they hold the licence for another game.
Guys don’t give me false hope. 2 years ago dtg did a post about visiting Virgin (pre avanti) and people thought WCML would come. Until now nothing
We (mostly me) are probably getting ahead of ourselves. At the very least, I hope DTG are reading this and taking note that it's a route many want to see.
I'm going to jump into this thread here with some additional info here: Judging by other related posts in the discord, these are the logos that appear in the menus, like how when you select, say, the Class 377, it shows the Southern logo. Noticeably, London Midland/LNWR are missing, so should any WCML routes in the south happen, there would likely be a lack of commuter services - unless these are acquired. Slightly off the West Coast topic, it's noticeable some rather 'tricky' licenses appear: Cross Country Great Northern Thameslink And one that has never even appeared (including precursors to the TOC) in TS OR TSW: MerseyRail. However, some well-requested areas are ruled out (if hypothetically this is all they can get): Wales, Anglia, Northern/TPE etc. A lot can come out of one image it seems.
My expectations are low, but I can’t help feel a little excited that Merseyrail might see the light of day. DTG Natster - Did you manage to convince anyone internally to do Merseyrail?
I mean MerseyRail is by far one of the most likely options here, considering we now have the PEPs in game, and now (obviously) this has came to light.
