The Jubilee and Victoria lines are Underground Deep tube lines. They intersect at Green Park Station where there is a roughly minute and a half walk between the platforms. First we'll talk about the Jubilee line. Jubilee line The Jubilee line is 36.2 miles long and has 27 Stations. The rolling stock is the 1996 stock train. The underground section is between Swiss cottage and North Greenwich. The line uses ATO operation but manual operation is still feasible. Services Peak services at 30 tph in the core section between Stratford and West Hampstead: 18 tph Stratford – Stanmore 4 tph Stratford – West Hampstead 4 tph Stratford – Willesden Green 4 tph Stratford – Wembley Park Some peak services originate or terminate at West Ham or Neasden Off-Peak services at 24 tph in the core section between Stratford and Willesden Green: 16 tph Stratford – Stanmore 4 tph Stratford – Willesden Green 4 tph Stratford – Wembley Park 1996 stock The 1996 stock entered service on 24 December 1997 and had its refurbishment between 2017 and 2019 the train uses ATO operation but drivers are also encouraged to use Manual operation to get a feel of driving the train. The 1996 stock is the only route that runs on the Jubilee line. The Maximum speed of the 1996 stock is 62mph. Victoria line The Victoria line is an Underground Deep tube line which runs from Brixton in South London to Walthamstow Central in North East London. The line has 16 stations and is 13 miles long. The rolling stock is the 2009 stock. The lines only depot is Northumberland Park. While the whole line is Underground the Jubilee line will compensate for that since it has surface stations. Services The Victoria line has 36 trains per hour at peak times. The line is also known for its fast speeds due to it having fewer stations. 2009 stock The 2009 stock is a tube stock which runs on the Victoria line. The train is 8 cars long and has a maximum speed of 50 mph. The train runs on ATO but can also be used manually. With ATO the driver presses a pair of "start" buttons and the train would drive at a safe speed to the next stop when it would be clear. At any point the driver could switch to manual if ATO fails. In summary these routes would be good to have a fast paced experience unlike the Bakerloo line which had fairly slow speeds. And the platform edge doors on the Jubilee line would highlight the route.
Excellent idea and if you are wondering how automatic train operations going to work think of it as HMA S-Bahn LZB where you have another train right behind you after yours to increase line frequency. These routes provide a transfer to Base game route Bakerloo Line at Baker Street and Oxford Circus
You'd better be good at stopping on the 90s section of the Jubilee - yo need to line up with the doors
I the Jubilee line has potential, however not the Vic, as it is fully automatic and has never been manual. The Jubilee line, however, could be set pre-2011 when it was manual, or even pre 1999 if PEDs are too much of a challenge and have the route terminate at Charing Cross.
As much as I like the Underground, I do not get the appeal of ATO in TSW. Even more so in a tunnel. The Bakerloo line is fun due to its rather old stock and manual operation. A Jubilee Line set in the past could be interesting, modern Jubilee or Victoria... not so much.
The Central I believe only permits manual driving at the extremities during evenings and weekends, all other times and over the core Leytonstone-North Acton it's in Automatic only. ATO is used to smooth out the variable driving styles, with trains running to the same Automatic 'driving style' the gaps between trains can be reduced which is how they've managed to squeeze additional services into the timetable (up to every 90 seconds on the Victoria Line) TfL have done the sums and concluded going Driverless* isn't worth the cost (plus the union fight they'd have), however the UK National Government has been trying to make TfL's funding conditional on a Driverless rollout for Political Grounds *On Existing lines - I'm pretty sure a ground up build would be full ATO (Crossrail has through running onto National Rail lines so would need drivers anyway
Drivers aren’t encouraged to drive manually anymore, it’s not feasible to operate 36tph manually and also it’s not possible for a human to operate with moving block
I think if the Jubilee Line happened, Dovetail would have to skip out on PED. It would be too hard to use without ATO, though I could imagine something cool where you operate manually until Green Park, switch to Automatic until North Greenwich, then switch back on the last leg to stratford.
Good idea and that should allow perfect stops on the Platform Screen Doors which this route is equipped with. If a special timetable were to be used to Green Park pre-1999 Bakerloo Line can layer 1972 Stock to Jubliee Line via a Track connection at Baker Street. Jubilee Line was opened in 1979
If this happened, the current 1972 Stock we have would never be layed for these reasons: 1. It has Bakerloo 2020 Carriage Maps 2. It does not have Jubilee -1999 Carriage Maps 3. Its in a Modern 2020 Livery that never operated on the Jubilee Line in the brief spell that it had on it 4. People would moan if the JLE was not featured. Just feature it in 1999-ish when both Charing Cross and JLE were open
Thank you for telling me about this looks like it's going to be stand alone unless DTG kept up with TFL plans for Jubilee Line
I personally would rather we didn't get anymore Deep-Level Tube lines for a good while. Whilst my only real life experience of the Tube is the Jubilee Line, I don't think that - especially after Bakerloo - we need one, and BKL wasn't the best thing in TSW, was it... Also, why would the Victoria & Jubilee be put together just because they interchange at a singular station, on different tracks and platforms as well. That's a strange logic. If I were to put the Jubilee with another route it would be the Metropolitan, as that one makes a bit of sense, as they run together for a decent distance.