Where Are The People?

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by Crosstie, Oct 10, 2021.

  1. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    " Jump in the cab and take control of packed trains filled with commuters, tourists and holidaymakers " - DTG.

    I don't want to be or sound negative, but the lack of passengers is spoiling BML for me. Planes are flying in to Gatwick but apparently changing their minds and flying on to Heathrow, because I saw only one lonely person on the platform at Gatwick. And she didn't board the train for Victoria or anyplace else!!!
    Empty trains, windswept stations with no humanity ( but sounding like they were crowded ).

    We were promised Rush Hour crowds, first at release, then certainly by launch day, now who knows, whenever. DTG are fond of the " sooner rather than later" mantra, the same excuse I give my wife about painting the bathroom. No promises, no dates means no commitment.

    Among the other myriad issues, solving this one ought to be the first priority. Otherwise there's no immersion and no Rush Hour. If passengers don't show up soon, I'll have to fly back to Boston or Dresden. Out of Heathrow, I guess!!
     
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  2. Trainmania100

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    The numbers you mention at Gatwick were a bit concerning but I had plenty of people getting off an AI 387 at Brighton, there's definitely no shortage of numbers for me on ps5 at least, could it b e the time of day you did your service ?
     
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    I drove a service from Brighton to LV stopping only at Gatwick and I wasn’t paying attention during the run but at Victoria no passengers got off the train because there weren’t any on it to get off. I think that’s more than the Rush Hour passengers not being turned on. I couldn’t tell you which station it is but one station always seems to be rammed with passengers when I stop there, so I think something else might be going on with passenger curves or their spawning points and paths. Gatwick would be busy all day of course, rather than just at rush hour, but maybe that can’t be singled out as a destination for extra numbers in the game.

    Edit to add, that’s on PS5 just in case it’s important.
     
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    Judging by what Matt said in the release stream, they may be holding off increasing the number of passenger to what they're meant to be because of the frame rate and performance complaints.
     
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  7. mancunian#7861

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    From what I understood, Cam, it was to ensure that 'ticking the box' to turn on rush hour people didn't screw up other parts of the game, as you suggested, and it needs further testing before they do.
     
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  8. Clumsy Pacer

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    Yes, but he also mentioned the performance complaints, and said turning on the new curves etc would only make it worse.
     
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  9. Crosstie

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    The impression I'm getting from the comments in the thread is that it will likely be many moons before the " passenger mode " is switched in, if ever.
    All in all this route doesn't fit the Rush hour description. It lacks the AI trains of Dresden and the passenger numbers of Boston.
    That doesn't mean it's not a good route, just a bit of a disappointment, given the hype in the DTL articles and the excitement in the forum.
     
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  10. Shaun123

    Shaun123 Well-Known Member

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    Are we playing the same DLC?!

    AI services?! I’ve never seen TSW busier, I played a service at around 1700 out of Victoria and baring Clapham Junction and no SWR services, it’s exactly what I expect.
     
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  11. JZJ90

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    Yeah, for me I think the BML is definitely the most "rush hour" feeling route. On every run I've done so far I can't go more than 30 seconds without seeing another train, at times there are 3 or 4 other units driving around near me. I also find myself getting stuck trying to move along the platforms because there are so many passengers wandering about, and this is before the rush hour passengers are enabled!? I can't even imagine how they would fit more passengers in without them spilling over onto the tracks or glitches through each other.
     
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  12. Monder

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    Eeeeehm... WHAT?
     
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  13. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    I'm relating my own experience. Yours may be different.
    In any event, double shouting at another member is very impolite and against forum rules.
     
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  14. Oldcustard

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    It's factually incorrect though. It has over 4000 AI services not including layers. Dresden doesn't even come close.
     
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    I am not double shouting at you, I am just seriously confused by that statement. You would have to run a service at like 3 am to meet very little services, otherwise, the route is packed. I love Dresden, but it is no match to what is happening on this route.
     
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  16. xi haoyu china

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    What does this mean?
     
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    I wonder how long it'll be for someone to suggest suing DTG for false advertising?
     
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  18. mandonov

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    Perhaps Crosstie is on an older console, in which case it doesn’t have as many services.

    I’m also on an older Xbox, but I come to the PC forums because it’s the only one with the timetable feedback threads and is generally where DTG reply the most.
     
  19. Oldcustard

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    Forgive me if I'm wrong then, but I thought that it was only the layers that the consoles didn't have, and that they still had all of the AI services.
     
  20. PegasusLeosRailwayFanatix

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    Have there been any problem after enabling this on your computer, was there any lag or glitches that you encounter?
     
  21. Clumsy Pacer

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    Even so, on last gen consoles, there's still some 1200 services - way more than any other route.
     

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