London Commuter (brighton) - The Definitive Feedback Thread.

How do you turn the passenger lights on/off on the 377/375/378? I can't find any controls or switches for them.

 

The rainbow lights are from Mastery.

 

I'd like to know too being as the TMS is missing the option and the MCBs don't operate. Bar pressing Aux Off (Don't do it) XD

 

lol I know.... I'm talking about the chequerboard effect in front of all the lights.

 

I stand to be corrected, however if I'm not mistaken, passenger lights are usually toggled through the screen, specifically the one on the left side. But it doesn't have any functionality in game other than changing PIS and seeing what doors are open/closed.

 

Doesn't look like you can... No idea why that isn't simulated as ECS moves would normally have the cabin lights off

 

, its more ment to check how fragile a timetable is. Thats why i enjoy the 24h service mode, you can jump from one to another service.

Brings the definition of a sim much closer to an immersive experience.

 

Yes but you should be quite able to do that saving and resuming as you go along too.
The best use for BML at present is a test track for the UK classic diesels. I'm currently thrashing a Class 40 out of Gatwick towards Brighton and later I have a mind to run the Western on an overnight parcels service from Brighton to Victoria, hopefully finding a path that serves Redhill.

 

After a few drives on timetabled services my overall impression is that this is a fine piece of work from DTG.

What makes this my favourite TSW2 route to date;
*It's a cracking route, the quintessential English commuter/tourist line and it is incredibly well modelled.
*Despite the challenges and some stuttering, the level of service is superb. It's the first TSW2 route that feels as busy as the real thing.
*The trains drive well and sound good to my ears.
*The addition of Networkers (if you have them) adds more depth to the route at the London end, I like variation.
*The noise at Gatwick station and passing planes, I've been there so many times and it feels like the real thing.

Why I'm not giving up on the legacy Train Simulator version just yet:
*The awful lighting. Palid, washed out in the sun, luminous/fuzzy trains and cars at night. Dusk looks fantastic without the trains!
*The god awful weather system. I've moaned elsewhere, I'm sure DTG know it's awful and have it on the list.
*The really simple things that DTG could have done to add to the immersion. Imagine if the pack used reskinned versions of the rolling stock already there to give us Purple Thameslink 377/4s Southern 5 car 377/6, 377/7s and White Thameslink 387s. How insanely varied and immersive would that be?
*Armstrong Powerhouse packs in the Legacy Train Simulator only.

I'll ignore the obvious glitches mentioned in the various posts, they are there and I have confidence that DTG always expected there would be a fix a few weeks into the games' launch. So, overall 8/10.

 

I believe if you hold aux on the 377,375,387 for roughly 15 seconds it should turn the passenger lights of but also shuts down the whole train

 

The save/load feature is most certainly broken and needs to be fixed, but the service mode can be enjoyed without it if you play one or two services at a time. So I'd absolutely argue against the best use for the route being for scenario planner, the service mode is outstanding in terms of quantity and variety.

 

If you like driving soulless Plasticstars…

 

As opposed to the soulful (but normally on fire or broken down) metal ones of the past?

 

Looks like it's the apostrophe in certain station names that's causing the PIS cutoff issues; first Shepherd's Bush and now Christ's Hospital. Bit amusing seeing a train just displaying 'Christ' though.

 

Couple more things I've found at Redhill this time.......

Firstly the canopy posts are very close to the edge of the platform on platform 3 which when you look at pictures of the real station is not the case on that platform.

Secondly there's a section of missing rail as you depart towards Reigate.

 

Anyone else noticed there are stop markers on the side of the track just south of Horley on the up slow line?
These are about 1/2 a mile away from the station.

 

They are used for shunts onto the mainline so the driver knows when he has passed the junction etc.....

 

Interesting as I noticed that too but put it down to the track being slow to draw in - would seem not. Slightly more serious than the absent lineside fencing on the Quarry Line!

 

Does anyone know if today’s update fixed the silent AWS issue?
Haven’t had time to try it out yet.

 

No it hasn't at least for me. Services that were crashing to desktop for me are also still crashing. Frame rate is slightly improved across the route though.

 

no is still in and as random as it was before

 

The shading has been discussed elsewhere: the reason is that ambient occlusion is not enabled in train interiors, and it isn't because it would inflict even more of a performance hit where last-gen consoles and older PCs are already challenged to keep up.

 

1) There's nothing at all "simple" about obtaining TOC licenses
2) Building 377 variant models is much more than just "reskinning"

 

Regarding the 377/387's you keep losing the line light too much, it seems to act as though just one shoe is touching the conductor rail.

And as someone else said its a shame that there was not some white Thameslink 387's added so at least we could see some Thameslinks running around.

 

Except that would make it look really stupid to people who know the line. The equivalent is seeing a 375 on the line from Rochester to Gravesend. Stick to running trains that actually run there

 

It would be good to see something Thameslink on there too though I'm not sure with the issues some are having with layers it will happen unless its substitutions.

 

Not having any issues with layers... bring it on (I'm sure my seven year old machine won't die too hard)

 

i updated to the new nvidia driver 496.13 from 472.12 and now i have these micro stutters too in dx11 or dx12 im going back to 472.12.

 

Why would it be stupid as Thameslink did use 387/1’s for many years.

 

Because they don't now, when the route is set.

 

I mean, the route uses a 2018 timetable and includes diversion services that haven't happened since what, 2013-4ish? I'm not sure the route has a very specific time period other than 'the last few years' and I think it is certainly better to be slightly flexible and have a better gameplay experience personally. The last 387s weren't replaced by the 700s until December 2017 (unless someone has better info than me - happy to be corrected!).

Absolutely I would rather see a Class 700 DLC (it would be really nice to appreciate the route through a full-width cab windscreen for starters) but if there was some sort of impassable roadblock to getting a 700 (for instance if Siemens weren't interested in getting involved) I would much rather have some TL 387 services to ensure that we do eventually have a 'full' timetable with all stations served rather than having several stations modelled that will never see a timetable train call at them.

 

A full cab view would be amazing

 

Or they could put some 319's in as the Thameslink layer?

 

Frankly Preston park needs replacing, the subway doesn't work and there's only one exit, there should be white spiked fenced on the hill side

 

It's a pretty easy negotiation if you have a good lawyer.
I wasn't suggesting perfect versions of those variants. There isn't a perfect version of any of the UK EMUs yet if you want to be really picky.

 

There's no full length TS38s in service when the Bakerloo Line is set, so what's with the sudden need for realism?

 

I would have commented on that had I been bothered. Don't drive Bakerloo
I prefer realism because I want this game to be a simulator for the railway rather than some cobbled together train game which could basically be anything.

 

I totally agree. My comment was directed as sarcasm at DTG. Sadly there's no imoji (or whatever they're called) for "I'm being painfully ironic".
There's a market for train games and there's a market for realistic simulators, TSW won't benefit in the long-term from trying to be both. MSFS/Asobo can afford to flood their game with new content, DTG can't, which makes their decision to kill the editor look like an own goal. Imagine TS classic if there was no modding, for example.

 

What, you mean I wouldn't have AP withdrawing content (which in TSW would break the timetable) or have to go to twelve websites to get assets for a single scenario only to find three are down, one has discontinued the asset entirely and one website which I bought an asset from last year is up, but the owner no longer resident on the planet so there's no customer service?
Where do I sign up?

(all of the above HAVE happened, hence me moving to TSW in the first place, where all content is totally available and all services supported for the DLC I have)
PS And I have only recently had crashing on TSW as well... can't say that for TS1 before 2021

 

Hi,

First of all, I don't know if this has been said or not.
Yesterday I did a GX service from London Victoria to Brighton, and select a light rain weather.
As expected, there were no wet platforms, or so I thought until I got to Brighton station, so, why is only the wet platform system enabled in this station?
I don't know if this is a bug or is the beginning of work on a future patch or something like that, but it's funny that it's only at Brighton station (or so I think, I didn't see any more wet platforms along my route ).
What is your opinion??

Greetings.

 

I saw in another thread that not all collectables on BML can be found. It was theorised that one was attached to the flats that were incorrectly used at Reigate. The building was replaced in the final build of the route, but I took a screenshot of the old building before the update, and you can see a collectable poster there (behind the bin in the centre).



Hopefully, this has been noted by DTG and gets added to the new building, so the achievement/trophy is attainable.

 

A stupid question; How do I uncouple a train within a minute so that I can start driving? No matter what I press or do, uncoupling is not. And Streg + C with and without the arrow key is just coupling.

 

Shut down your leading cab and remove the master key.
Go to the front cab of the unit you want to remove, so that the coupler you want to uncouple is in front of you. Put master key in, then reverser to neutral and press the uncouple button on the desk.

 

It does not work. Changed driver's cab.

Put on the other train.
Mainswitch on.
Neutral.
And then the blue switch continues to say "couple" There is no switch with "uncouple"
And also no key command with uncoupling, at least it is not listed.

Chapter 5, Task 4 1M15 Brighton to London Victoria


Ok, manchmal ist man echt blöd....



Thanks

 

Uncouple button has a red flip cover on it. Top right of the drivers panel.

Edit: lol I just read you edit, the German bit. No problem

 

That's a very credible crack at this year's "Most painful example of shoehorning an unrelated agenda into a thread" award

 

It's also a crack at showing the downside to independent 3rd party development. It's not all a bed of roses that some people like to make out it is

 

I’ve noticed that there are areas which are very poorly optimised. I think it was around Balham station, or somewhere close to it. I’d get a steady 60FPS. however moving the camera a little bit it’d drop right down to 15-20FPS. Always in the same place too.

Clearly something is very FPS draining, as there shouldn’t be that big of a drop.

This happens at quite a few places along the route, such as East Croydon and on the approach to Clapham Junction from the Victoria bound direction.

 

Bit baffled by your point to be honest, no-one is forcing TS users to move away from what's available on Steam, just like with TSW. You could easily strip your TS installation back to the Steam installations if you find all that manual updating too much. I have Fibromyalgia and it's not an easy task for me all that dragging and dropping of files, but on balance it is worth it because it improves my enjoyment of TS.

For those who don't mind the extra work then it's better on balance to have that choice isn't it?
I mean, MSFS is the same, stick with the basics or get into other developers but have to do a bit of updating. TSW is the outlier here.