M1 Pro / M1 Max Chips Apple

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  1. AntonK_007

    AntonK_007 Well-Known Member

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  2. antwerpcentral

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    They are amazingly fast! I have an M1 at the moment so I would say yes ... but Mac's don't have a big game user base. People switching to M1's mostly do it for professional reasons not to play video games.

    On the other hand: developing for M1 might open to the gates to TSW Mobile
     
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    You can get the steam store on Mac, so it's not impossible. But I guess the move away from intel chips might make coding a Mac version a little harder? I wouldnt know for sure.
     
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    I think apple is a scam and I don’t understand why people act like they’re the only good phone company, but hey that’s just my opinion :)
     
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    Tell us more why you think it is a scam and why you think it's a phone company?
     
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    Well I was generalising a bit
    1. Planned obsolescence
    2. Ridiculously overpriced
    3. They are selling a computer stand for one THOUSAND pounds
    4. Are viewed by the public as superior any other phones, I have even been bullied before for not having one
    5. They hold their value way too well, the fact that people will buy a phone that is a decade old for £100 is insane
     
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    imagine a company offering about 19 quid for a cloth to clean your screen which is white which is will get very dirty easily and its advised not to wash it
     
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  8. Mattty May

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    The fact Apple products hold their value so well negates the overpriced view. You can get a lot of money back when you come to sell it. I personally think iPhone is way superior to Android phones. I’ve used both. If they didn’t make quality, easy to use products, people simply wouldn’t buy them.
     
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    1 Name a company that does not do planned abosolence?
    2 They are not ridiculously overpriced, they just don't sell budget products
    3 That stand is for one of the cheapest displays in that type of display category which proves Apple is not overpriced. The stand is optional.
    4 Well iPhones have longer support, the OS is optimised for the hardware and vice versa. The iPhone has a lot of advantages over it's counterparts.
    5. Because lots of people appreciate what Apple makes. A 10y old phone might still work. Most 10y old Android phones don't.
     
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    Good point but it’s still strange how it is this way....

    Yes but that would depend on what either phone was, there is not just one apple and android phone, so it seems rather unfair to compare the two just with the particular models that you have bought.
    People buy them because it is what is trendy and what their friends like and because they don’t want to be bullied for being an Android user.
    This doesn’t prove your point. They can still sell overpriced products even if their product isn’t budget
    Citations needed.

    Anyway I do not want to get into a stupid arguement with people that I know will not change what they think no matter what I say, goodbye
     
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    Your problem is not with Apple products. Your problem is with people that bullied you. So why are you showing the same behaviour as you bullies? If you call Apple a scam and people that buy Apple products people that do not know what they buy and do it only to because of what they friends might think I feel bullied.
     
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    No my problem is with the slating of people who use android even though they are equal to apple users and that Apple always acts like their tech is brand new and revolutionary even though android phones had being doing it for years before theirs (eg widgets)
    Ok then, goodbye
     
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    They are not equal. iPhone is focussed on the user experience. Android is all about focussing on advertisers.
     
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    Oh come on that’s just silly, “user experience” Its just a phone, and also apples are simple as hell to use and that’s one of the reasons that they are so popular. They’re for people that cannot be bothered to figure out how their phone works, so they get a simple one with half the features and double the cost.
    Also what do you mean “*focusing on the advertisers”? It’s the websites and apps that show you adverts not the phone.
     
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    Ah so they are not equal as you describe it? Apple's are more easy to use you say? Wel that's user experience. :D
     
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    Imagine not being able to use sd cards on your phone lol
     
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    Never needed too.
     
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    Can I ask you where you are from? If you speak about SD cards I start to understand why you think they are "ridiculously overpriced".
    The last time I heard someone mention an SD card as something lacking on the iPhone must have been more than 10 years ago when cloud services still sounded exotic. I can't even imagine a situation where I would need an SD card on a phone.
     
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    Way to completely derail a thread…

    M1 is exciting because hopefully it lights a fire under Microsoft’s ass to properly port Windows to ARM with a good x86 emulator. Competition breeds innovation, so if this pushes the industry to use more powerful and efficient ARM chips then games will eventually have to become native to adapt to a changing market.
     
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    Yeah it’s hard to do a proper one for one comparison because there’s not very many games made and compiled for both Windows and macOS ARM.

    So playing that game was through two layers of emulation: first through Parallels to run Windows in macOS, and then again to run the game with Windows on ARM’s own Rosetta-like x86 to ARM converter.

    It’s a chicken and egg scenario to get AAA games made for the Mac, and a new chip architecture is just another hurdle for a small install base. Which is why I mentioned that if this can push Microsoft to make Windows on ARM better then the industry as a whole may move in that direction.
     
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    UE is available for Mac so presumably DTG would be able to output TSW for it, if the market was there to make maintaining it worthwhile. I suspect that most Mac users have got to a point where they don't think to look for games on that platform.

    I've used Macs since the mid 90s and for work, I wouldn't have anything else. The system and flow is much cleaner than any Windows system I've ever tried which just lets me get on with my work, and the extra spend pays for itself many times over.

    I use my Macs for graphic design, photography, video editing, animation, 3D, but rarely gaming - I've always had a Playstation for that.

    As an aside, I've also never owned an iPhone. My wife has an iPad, but that's as close as we've come - currently on a Pixel.
     
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    I'm an avid Mac user. TSW2 for Mac would sound as something I would want but I actually don't. The idea of sitting behind my desk to play a video game just has no appeal for me
     

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