Ts19: Réseau Renaissance

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  1. Random Railfan

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    This pretty much sums up how I see it
     
  2. BigMountain555

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    They will keep ignoring this issue/thread and keep churning out new DLCs. The only difference now is instead of periodically updating this thread with empty promises, they seem to have given up altogether.
     
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  3. Michael Newbury

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    Just as they done with Tehachapi Pass there has been no fix on that one either just silence.
     
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  4. VictorHugoVS

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    DTG, We want answers about this, it's a product that you sold with problems, and you have an obligation to fix it, we've been waiting for years for an update. It's no use just taking it out of the store, it doesn't solve the problem of those who bought it and many would like to buy.
     
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  5. LucasLCC

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    Appears that DTG need a guide on how to reply to a post.
     
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  6. BigMountain555

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    Unreal how they have decided to completely neglect this issue and start ignoring it after years of broken promises and possibly outright lies in this very thread.
     
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  7. Random Railfan

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    Yeah come to think of it this thread kinda became radio silence on DTG's end.
     
  8. BigMountain555

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    And the silence from DTG continues. I didn't realize that this was pulled from sale silently. So I guess it was swept under the rug and expected to be forgotten.
     
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  9. Random Railfan

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    Oh damn they pulled it???
     
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    That commitment could be a legal responsibility to the customer if the product is unfit for purpose and that remains the case even if subsequently withdrawn.
     
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  13. BigMountain555

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    Imagine an automobile manufacturer who makes a car and an issue is identified by the customers. The solution is the stop selling the car altogether, and leave the defective cars in the hands of the customers who already bought them. End of story.

    My example might be a bit extreme, but for this company to acknowledge that they were working on a fix, and then 3 years later simply pull the item from sale just looks bad. Over 3 years of them rarely responding to this thread, and now people are to expect a fix and release after they have pulled it? I think this is their way to close this issue once and for all. Just pull it and ignore. I hope I am wrong.
     
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  14. hayward.john48

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    The problem is that little folk haven't the money to sue and even if they did is putting DTG out of business in any of our interests - No so we put up with it (but we don't have to shut up).
     
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  15. Doomotron

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    Eventually I lost hope in DTG re-releasing it and I just settled to pay the absurd price Aerosoft asks for it. A complete rip-off, but my only option.
     
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  16. Random Railfan

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    Is Aerosoft selling its own version or is it just the broken DTG one?
     
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    Probably the broken one as a 3rd party store that also sells DTG content.
     
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  18. Doomotron

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    Aerosoft sell codes for the DTG one. They won't run out as they can generate new codes, so if anybody wants it and is prepared to burn through a lot of money, go for it.
     
  19. Random Railfan

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    I guess if you're literally insane...
     
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  20. LucasLCC

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    DTG Jamie DTG JD

    It's about time for an update on this one:

    - What's the status of the update?
    - Why do you think as a company it is acceptable to do this to your customers?
    - Why has it taken so long to do a simple update?

    This would make the perfect case study for any student studying business studies on just how not to treat your customers.
     
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  21. 749006

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    You don't have to put up with it
    It is one DLC which has a problem - Don't use it if you don't want to
     
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    Wow, I have only just discovered this thread and waded through it all. Kind of wish I hadn’t!
     
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    Running on AC I don't see the problem with the rear Pantograph so I'm putting up with it until something else happens
    Screenshot_Dole-Vallorbe_47.09688-5.49010_10-32-43.jpg
     
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    Removed - by Jamie
     
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  26. DTG Jamie

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    No More News Currently. The team are aware and as soon as I have any updates for you will add it to the page.
     
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  27. DrTrenchcoat

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    Just be honest, the DLC will never be updated, DTG released a broken product, claimed it was being fixed for years then removed it from sale with no plans to fix it and return it to sale.
     
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  28. LucasLCC

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    That's really not good enough, you've sold a faulty product and are showing no intention to resolve it.
     
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  29. BigMountain555

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    Over the years since this issue was brought to light, several other DLC were released or fixed. Yet, a few times each year, we are fed similar, now-meaningless, responses along the lines of "no new information. We will update when...". Frankly, it is TIRING. Maybe they can do us all a favour and refund the damned DLC, close this thread, and pretend it never happened. That would be better than dragging this along with empty messages.
     
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  30. Koplopermau

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    Meanwhile it is 9 months later and still no updates regarding the Réseau pack... DTG... Where is it?
     
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  31. longo239

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    I would think after all this time and the lack of any response from DTG, you can give up on expecting anything.
     
  32. Doomotron

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    Only in our hearts...
     
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    You mean 'dreams'?
     
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    I notice as you go past 399kmH the speedo reverts to 00
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    But the 373 is ok
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  35. torfmeister

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    Hmm. Works for me...

    2022-05-09 11_35_01-Train Simulator (x64).png
     
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    I must give it another run - thanks
    How come the TVM did not apply the brakes when over speeding?
     
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  38. torfmeister

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    Lol. I used Photoshop.:cool::cool::cool:

    The PowerCar bin only defines 0 to 3 for the hundreds digits, and the Engine.out script resets it to zero.

    We definitely need to hunt for more bugs on this one, creating them ourselves. What will happen at 1000 km/h???

    I don't understand this whole thread. The TGV is ok, it's not perfect, but there's many other DLC with far worse game-breaking issues around than this one with its cosmetical faults. For example I'm just trying to free the Clinchfield SD-40 from its broken script returning to standard non-scripted braking (Release-GraduatedSelfLapLimited-FullService-Emergency)

    I like the TGV Réséau / Duplex. Forget about the panto.
     
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    I partially agree, I think the main problem with it is that it was labelled as Pro Range, and it was never meant to be a Pro Range product, because of the reused sounds and the lack of specific procedures in the manuals (and working knobs and buttons, etc.). IMHO, if they had released it as a non-Pro product, it wouldn't have had such bad reception and we wouldn't have reached this situation (a fairly decent model being removed from the store).
    Reused sounds, incomplete manuals, and other issues of this DLC are very common in a lot of others DLC and they are pretty enjoyables anyway (but, not Pro Range).
     
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  40. 749006

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    The route is "Ligne de test à grande vitesse" and is dead straight for 30 kms or maybe longer
    No LGV Signalling and Free Roam just for testing
    Just open the controller and go
     
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    Is this Add-on officially dead or what? It's been de-listed on Steam for more than a year now! It had a lot of problems, and it was a mistake to market it as a pro-range add-on, but surely DTG could put it back on the store without the Pro-range branding and drop the price? Because even in its pretty busted state, it's still a good add-on, at least from a more casual perspective. The 3D model is gorgeous, and I like that owning it adds the Réseau and Réseau Duplex to the AI traffic for the Lyon-Marseille route, so even if you just drive the default Duplex, there's more variety at the stations and along the line.

    I just find it weird that this was removed from Steam but the old ICE 1 and ICE T remain, despite the former having no Pzb, Lzb, or Sifa functionality, and a slightly wonky AFB, and the latter being full of bugs like tilting the wrong way at low speed, and the pantograph not working properly. Just strikes me as a slightly extreme reaction.
     
  42. torfmeister

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    Just get it from Aerosoft.

    Further discussing "But why.../ DTG should..." will go to >NIL: ;)
     
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  43. chieflongshin

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    Am i reading this correctly. 3 years no update?
     
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  44. DTG Jamie

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    Sorry we haven't got anything more to update on this, as soon as I have any news will update on here.
     
  45. Doomotron

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    I'll set the three year timer for another 'nothing to report' post from DTG staff.

    We want our Reseau!
     
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  46. chieflongshin

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    This doesn't personally impact me but I am genuinely boggled at this......

    Imagine waiting three years for a brand new dlc, totally unacceptable, patches, different story
     
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  47. Doomotron

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    With DTG being bought by Virtucon- sorry, Focus, all French DLC will be made free. However, the list includes the TGV Reseau pack. I don't know if it's a mistake or not but if it isn't hopefully it includes the patch we've been waiting for since the release of the Second Testament.
     
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    So with the news that the TGV reseau pack is included in the free French DLC thing next month, can we also expect the patch that was supposed to come out 4 years ago?
     
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    Is it coming on 26 May or shortly before?
     
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    Apparently not.

     

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