Chicago To New York Manhattan Limited

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  1. Sharaf

    Sharaf Member

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    Here's a route I'd like to see done in the steam era.

    Here is some information on the route itself:
    The Manhattan Limited was originally the Seashore Limited, an eastbound-only train which was renamed in 1903. The Manhattan Limited became a westbound train as well in 1913 with the renaming of the Chicago Limited. Both trains then ran with all-Pullman consists.[1]: 110–111 

    The Manhattan Limited served as an alternative to the Broadway Limited. The Broadway Limited was a sleeping car passenger train, although there were dining accommodations on the train. As with the Broadway, the Manhattan Limited departed New York City's Penn Station in Manhattan en route for Union Station in Chicago, Illinois. The train also carried more second and third class passengers while first class passengers took the Broadway Limited.[1]: 111  Departing and arriving earlier than its flagship sister, the Manhattan Limited made far more local stops during daytime hours on a consequently more protracted schedule. It was late to receive streamlined equipment; as late as 1941 it carried just one lightweight 10-5 sleeper.

    The Manhattan Limited at Englewood, 1965
    The train was powered by a GG1 locomotive between New York and Harrisburg. As with the Broadway Limited, it changed locomotives at Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. The famous class K4s took the train the rest of the way. After 1957, when the Pennsylvania Railroad replaced steam locomotives in favor of the new and less costly diesels, the Manhattan Limited was no exception to dieselization, the Pennsylvania Railroad placing in charge of the train tuscan red EMD E8 passenger diesels.

    The eastbound Manhattan Limited received the Pittsburgher's sleepers after the latter's demise on September 13, 1964.[2]: 139  The Manhattan Limited lost sleeper service west of Pittsburgh in both directions on March 3, 1968.[1]: 115  The Manhattan Limited was retained after the Pennsylvania Railroad merged with the New York Central Railroad into the ill-fated Penn Central, but in 1970 the Penn Central petitioned the Interstate Commerce Commission (ICC) to abandon the train. By then the Manhattan Limited's consist was down to two coaches and a snack bar. At Pittsburgh a single waiting underutilized sleeping car[3] and one of the last operating Railway Post Office cars from the sidetracks of the adjacent U.S. Post Office were switched into the eastbound consist behind the locomotive for the overnight leg to New York City, evidently remnants of The Pittsburgher. The train was also available to transport specialty cars of traveling performance shows such as Holiday on Ice. The ICC granted the Penn Central's discontinuation request, but the passage of the Rail Passenger Service Act kept the Manhattan Limited running while Amtrak formed. Amtrak did not retain the Manhattan Limited, choosing the Broadway Limited instead. The Manhattan Limited made its final run on April 30, 1971.

    Route length: 790.1 miles ( it would be best to have an option in the game where it allows you to render only part of route at one instance and once you've left that section of route, it doesn't render that section anymore, this will save a lot of fps issues for older machines)


    The motive power that the route had back in the 50's were the following locomotives

    Here's a whistle to the T1 Duplex :

    Here are some links with useful information about the route:
    https://www.american-rails.com/manhattan.html
    http://streamlinermemories.info/?p=3813
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  2. steamfan#1309

    steamfan#1309 Well-Known Member

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    First buy if it is made definitely also what about the e6 on commuters and Broadway Limited in 1903?
     
  3. Sharaf

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    Yes the E6 is also another locomotive I'd like to see. Will edit the original post shortly
     
  4. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    You need to suggest a sensible length of route - no more than around 70 miles with DTG current project paradigm.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    You can also do it as Manhattan limited Philadelphia Lancaster 70 mi 110 kms 42 mi Manhattan limited Philadelphia Parkesburg
     
  6. Sharaf

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    That seems more reasonable. 70 miles. Wonder if DTG will ever do 100 mile routes like we've seen in TS1
     
  7. JealousSheep768

    JealousSheep768 Well-Known Member

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    this is what already happens
     
  8. Sharaf

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    To be honest that's the consoles problem. DTG should've made a totally separate simulator for consoles as us PC players are being held back because of them
     
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  9. Sharaf

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    Though I'd be curious to see if consoles will have higher powered processors and enough to keep up with the PC Market
     

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