Paris Métro Line 13(mf77 Refresh) And Freight Suggestion

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  1. souleymane#2785

    souleymane#2785 Well-Known Member

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    Hello everyone, I would like to propose to you the Line 13 of Metro Parisian with the rolling stock MF77 refresh. The company is thé RATP Group

    Line 13 of the Paris metro is one of the lines of the Paris metropolitan network. It connects suburban municipalities across the west of Paris: Saint-Denis and Saint-Ouen-sur-Seine, on the north-eastern branch, as well as Asnières-sur-Seine, Gennevilliers and Clichy on the north-eastern branch. west, to Vanves, Malakoff, Montrouge and Châtillon to the south.

    Line 13 is the longest in the Paris network with 24.3 kilometers, taking into account its two branches. Line 13 is the third line of the network by its frequentation with 600,000 travelers per day 130 million annual travelers
    Its operation in two branches in the north, the large population basin that it serves, its great length, its large part in the suburbs and the strong economic development of certain sectors served have caused a gradual saturation of this line. It has thus become the most saturated of the Paris metro, especially on the northern section from Saint-Lazare station. This situation has led, under pressure from users, to the implementation of several measures aimed at improving the operation of the line, including HURRICANE automatic piloting and the installation of quay facades. In 2017, for the first time, the line exceeded the contractual target of 96.5% of trainsets available during rush hour.
    Line 13
    is difficult to operate because of the presence of two branches, and its high traffic, which makes it one of the most overloaded lines on the network.
    Services:
    Line 13 is difficult to operate because of the presence of two branches, and its high traffic, which makes it one of the most overloaded lines on the network. The complete route of the line takes 35 to 37 minutes from Châtillon to Asnières (36 to 38 minutes in the opposite direction), and 38 to 39 minutes from Châtillon to Saint-Denis (39 to 41 minutes in the other direction). As on all the main metro lines, the first departure takes place from the head end at 5.30 a.m., but the length of the line caused a first and last partial circulation in order to ensure service at the same times as the other lines. without exceeding too much the hourly amplitude of service. The last departure from Châtillon - Montrouge takes place at 12:37 am towards Saint-Denis and at 12:40 am towards Asnières. The last departure is set at 1:37 a.m. on the nights of Fridays to Saturdays, Saturdays to Sundays, and public holidays to public holidays. On those nights, from 1:10 am, the Asnières - Gennevilliers / La Fourche branch is disconnected from the rest of the line and is operated independently. The change of platform at La Fourche is compulsory for users of this branch, from or to Asnières - Gennevilliers who are invited at La Fourche to follow the directional signs to continue their journey; on this branch, the last departure of La Fourche is set at 2 h 4.The average interval between trains is two to three minutes during the day on the central section, three to five minutes in the extreme evening, three to four minutes on Sunday and ten minutes on nights from Fridays to Saturdays, from Saturdays to Sundays and public holidays on public holidays after 12:30 a.m. (after 1:15 a.m. on Friday nights to Saturdays). On each branch, the average daytime intervals fluctuate from two to six minutes on the Asnières branch and five to six minutes on the Saint-Denis branch, six to ten minutes in the evening, six minutes on Saturday and six to eight minutes on Sunday.


    List of the different stations of line 13
    It is a line that offers three alternatives, with indeed two variants on its northern route.

    The first branch (Blue)

    Saint Denis - University
    Basilica of Saint-Denis
    Saint-Denis - Porte de Paris
    Carrefour Pleyel
    Saint Ouen Town Hall
    Garibaldi
    Saint-Ouen gate
    Guy Môquet


    The second branch (Yellow)

    Asnières - Gennevilliers - Les Courtilles
    The Agnettes
    Gabriel Peri
    Mairie De Clichy
    Porte de Clichy: Connection with the RER C
    Brochant



    Then the two branches come together
    La Fourche
    Place de Clichy: transfer to line 2
    Liège
    Saint-Lazare: correspondence with lines 3, 12, 14 as well as the RER E
    Miromesnil: transfer to line 9
    Champs-Elysées - Clémenceau: transfer to line 1
    Invalides: transfer to line 8 and RER C
    Varenne
    Saint-François-Xavier
    Duroc: transfer to line 10
    Montparnasse - Bienvenüe: transfer to lines 4, 6 and 12
    Gaité
    Pernety
    Plaisance
    Porte de Vanves
    Malakoff - Plateau de Vanves
    Malakoff - Rue Etienne Dolet
    Châtillon - Montrouge

    Here you will find the landing doors of line 13 placed in stations with a strong passenger influence.
    Terminus Châtillon Montrouge,
    Montparnasse Bienvenue,
    Duroc,
    Saint François Xavier,
    Varenne,
    Invalide,
    Champs-Élysée Clémenceau,
    Miromesnil,
    Saint Lazare,
    Liège,
    Place de Clichy,
    Saint Denis Porte de Paris
    and Saint Denis Basilica.
    That's 13/32 stations


    A peculiarity at the station La Fourche in the direction of Châtillon are separated. Coming from the yellow branch of Asnières Gennevilliers les Courtilles the quay is opposite the quay towards Asnières Gennevilliers les Courtilles and Saint Denis University it is called La fourche superior. While trains coming from the blue branch of Saint Denis University the platform is located below the platform for trains coming from the yellow branch it is called La Fourche Inferior. So when leaving the station, trains from 2 directions meet at place de Clichy station. Here are some videos inspiring you from this station. Good viewing
    La Fourche Superior:

    La Fourche Inferior:




    Rolling stock
    The line receives MF 77 trainsets in 1978, nicknamed "the white metro" because of its initial color, the interior renovation of which was started in 2007. From the second half of 2007 to the end of 2011, the MF 77s have been renovated at a production rate after the prototype has been tested since January 2007, with, among other things, pre-wiring for Ouragan, addition of ASVA (automatic audio and visual announcements system ). The line has a fleet of 65 MF 77 trains.
    The mf77 consists of 5 cars with 3 motor coaches including 2 with driver's cabin and 1 without driver's cabin and 2 trailer: M-B-NA-B-M

    - M: Motor car with driver's cabin
    - B: Trailer
    - NA: Motor without driver's cabin
    - B: Trailer
    - M: Motor car with driver's cabin

    Line 13 Map
    :
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    MF 77 refresh outsid, inside and cab :
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  2. souleymane#2785

    souleymane#2785 Well-Known Member

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    Let show you differents videos of the Line 13:




    Line 13 in rush hour :

    https://youtu.be/drKs7kVuKeU
    https://youtu.be/skodsGVTenM
    https://youtu.be/vNel3aTOyJY
    I present to you the announcements of the next trains at the Stations.For Line 13 go to 2 minutes: 50 seconds
    https://youtu.be/BAN5Km7dLsA

    Below is a preview of the line filmed at the front of the train in several parts. These videos date from 10 years ago so you will not see all the stations with the landing doors and some trains not renovated at that time. Good Viewing.
    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8542443A9A20090E

    landing doors:
    Métro_de_Paris_-_Ligne_13_-_Chatillon_Montrouge_-_Portes_palières_(2).jpeg téléchargement.jpeg

    Mf77 refresh cab :
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  3. jdavison#3053

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    I give you all my support. Hopefully one day they will listen to us and introduce another metro line...
    PS: It won't let me see the videos you uploaded ....
     
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    Are there any platform Screen Doors on this route or not? If so Paris Line 13 will be the first TSW 2 route to have a PSD then followed by selected routes in Japan that have them
     
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    There are about half of the line: the Terminus Châtillon Montrouge, Montparnasse Bienvenue, Duroc, Saint François Xavier, Varenne, Invalide, Champs-Élysée Clémenceau, Miromesnil, Saint Lazare, Liège, Place de Clichy, Saint Denis Porte de Paris and Saint Denis Basilica. That's 13/32 stations. equipped with landing door (double door). In fact, they are placed in the biggest stations of the line which are strong influences on travelers.
     
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    It would be a great pride to finally have a Paris metro line. You Can't play the videos?
     
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    Your post appeared to me in blank, thanks for putting the links
     
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    souleymane#2785 Well-Known Member

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    No problem. Hope that this suggestion is taken into account and that the RATP also agrees
     
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    It does, which probably means DTG will not do this, or set it earlier when they weren’t installed. Also you’re very optimistic with the Japan thing!
     
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    souleymane#2785 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they'll try who knows, but a Japanese line I doubt. But line 13 would be a good first and then another French and metro line in addition to RATP which is the 5 largest transport players in the world
     
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    Here are the 4 Terminus of line 13 below. good viewing.

    Châtillon Montrouge :


    Asnières Gennevilliers les Courtilles :


    Carrefour Pleyel (provisional terminus) :




    Saint Denis Université :

     
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    jdavison#3053 New Member

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    I really doubt that they were going to put more than one Parisian subway line, because then they would have already added more London or German or the United States subway lines, which they love so much ...
     
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    souleymane#2785 Well-Known Member

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    It is true but it would be a good choice for once to put at least one metro line in Paris and see if it will be as successful as the London Underground lines. Like line 13, 2 and line 6 especially. I intend to make a suggestion for line 6
     
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    Is this London
     
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    souleymane#2785 Well-Known Member

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    No, it's a metro line in Paris.
     
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    Oh hence the name Paris Metro understandable
     
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    Exactly ;)
     
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    DTG Natster let me introduce you to the Paris metro security systems such as KPV, VACMA.

    Security system:

    The Paris metro is equipped with safety systems such as VACMA on the pedal and on the manipulator standby. If one of these procedures is not applied, the train causes an automatic stop in emergency braking and an alarm signal sounds just before the train stops unexpectedly, you have a bell that sounds to warn you that you are pressing not on the VACMA. You also have an alarm which sounds if after closing the doors in the station after 3 seconds you do not start the train and to stop it there is the BP NA (alarm deactivation pushbutton). In inter-station you also have this alarm which sounds when you are stationary without having opened the doors and at each stop where you do not open the doors. You must press the BP NA immediately.
    You also have the KPV (Spot Speed Control) which checks if you do not exceed the prescribed speed in tunnels and outdoors in inter-stations. If you speed excessively above 5 km / h you trigger the automatic train stop, obviously with the following emergency braking on the part of the driver.

    Line 13 trains are equipped with HURRICANE systems. HURRICANE, acronym for Renewed and Improved Urban Offer, Managed by a New Automation is the train control system (CCT) that equips line 13 of the Paris metro
    The functions supported by the HURRICANE system are as follows:

    - Continuous monitoring of train speed
    - automatic turnaround of trains at terminal (Chatillon-Montrouge). during the automatic turnaround only at Châtillon-montrouge the driver brings his train to the shunting sidewalk and arriving at the sidewalk the train automatically departs in the other direction to the departure platform at Châtillon in order to have a good frequency of departure regulation of trains online.
    - Management of platform facades (landing doors).



    Dock indicator:

    the platform indicator is placed at each station next to the screens for the drivers for the passenger exchange. on this indicator is marked the real time, departure time, time ahead (example: -20 means 20 seconds ahead) and (+ 20 means 20 seconds late), it is indicated the number of the train, as well as the type walking A, B, C, D
    A: affluence in the afternoon (rush hour)
    B: Affluence in the morning (rush hour)
    C: Peak hours
    D: Night
    220px-Metro_Paris_-_Ligne_13_-_Station_Saint_Lazare_-_Horloge_de_régulation.jpg
     
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    Below is the announcement of the next trains in station and their direction for the Line 13. for the video go to 2:50 good viewing :)

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    Here are some videos showing you the announcements in the Paris metro pickpockets, preventive measures for travelers etc. Good viewing.



     
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    I offer you some freight rolling stock for line 13 and others Lines. TMA and TME. The TMA (Autonomous Walking Tractor) is a RATP works rolling stock for the Paris metro. The autonomous walking tractor (TMA) is a rolling stock of works of the Paris metro dating from 1985 of which 14 examples are built. It is used for track renewal works, carried out at night on lines where the traction rail is de-energized. For this purpose, it is equipped with batteries.
    The electric walking tractor (TME) is a work equipment of the Paris metro. These equipments are of BB configuration, equipped with two three-phase asynchronous motors of 220 kW, supplied with 400 volts three-phase by a power electronics type IGBT. They can be coupled in multiple units with their cousins, the self-propelled tractors (TMA)

    Technical support:

    Power supply: 750 volts direct by third rail
    Spacing: 1,435 mm
    Wheel diameter: 950 mm
    Maximum speed: 45 km / h
    Total mass: 55 t
    Locomotive / train mass: 60⁄180 t
    Traction: two three-phase forced-ventilated motors
    Asynchronous motorization
    Electric power: 220 kW
    .

    They are attached to the Porte de la Villette workshops and start from line to line during the day and night after the end of commercial service. They are generally placed in secondary tracks which are not used in passenger operation.

    TME:

    tme.jpg

    TMA:
    tracteur-marche-autonome-tma-nuit-ateliers-villette-ratp.jpg tma.jpg
     
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    here is a video with all the overhead lines of the metro. for line 13 go to 50min and 56s.

     
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    By a particularly difficult route between the Mairie de Clichy and Gabriel Péri stations, a very steep 50% ramp - the strongest in the network for running on railroads - and a series of curves and counter-curves, the line found itself in the air. free and cross the Seine again by a viaduct 411.70 meters in length, placed in an elevated position parallel to the road bridge, before plunging back underground on the left bank, sloping at 41%, in a covered hopper. It then reaches the Gabriel Péri station after a long interstation of 1,756 meters. With a view of the buildings of La Défense on the left towards Asnières Gennevilliers les Courtilles. Good viewing;)

     
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    Here is a video of automatic audio announcements on board the train Mf77 indicating the name of the station where it arrives at each arrival at the station. Unfortunately, the video makes Châtillon in Asnières Gennevilliers les Courtilles. In the direction of Saint Denis there is no visible video. good viewing ;)

     
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    Rail signaling Part 1:
    Now let's talk about the subway rail signaling. DTG Natster

    Spacing signage:
    Each line is divided into relatively short sections, called cantons, protected by lights which, in normal driving, should not be crossed when they are red. A repeat signal is used in the event that visibility does not allow the driver to react in time (yellow if the next light is red). In the normal case, there are always at least two red lights between two consecutive trains (i.e. there is always a free block between two trains). However, to increase the flow of the line, a train is authorized to enter the station by a yellow light E, as soon as the preceding train has released a few tens of meters downstream from the platform and not the entire following block; this change to yellow is accompanied by a speed limit indicated on a light panel next to the signal.

    There are also station output signals, and so-called spacing intermediate signals marked with an I, to which an index is added to differentiate them when there are at least two. Signals are numbered 1 to 1, in ascending order to the next station. We can therefore find in an interstation either a signal I, or a signal I1, I2, etc. Separation signs are circular in shape and arranged vertically, with a green light indicating the lane free, yellow for the warning and red for stopping. Some interstations do not have I signals, but just an output and input signal.

    There are also so-called “early release” signals. This type of signal generally has two lights and has the advantage of presenting a green light when the preceding train has cleared a point in the station. Typically, it is placed shortly after a "leading signal" which behaves similarly to a single spacing signal repeater. The mark of this signal has a luminous point.

    Finally, we can find spacing signals identified only by a number, nicknamed "overlap". These are fitted to the tracks used to perform the main track change maneuver in certain terminals and are systematically preceded by a repeater.

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    Maneuver signaling:
    The maneuver signaling is located at the switches. We can therefore find it:

    at the terminals, near the sidings and reversing tracks;
    in line, near connections between lines;
    in line, near certain track devices (switches) intended for provisional services.
    The maneuver signals are marked with a letter, which may be followed by an index and / or a star (symbol "*"), and two or three rectangular lights arranged horizontally:

    the red light orders the train to stop completely. When the maneuver signal is equipped with a traffic authorization button (these signals are identified by the star on their plate), pressing this button turns on this flashing red signal. In this case, crossing by sight is authorized in order to reach the parking position;
    the yellow light, then associated with a speed indicator panel (TIV), authorizes the passage at a speed lower than the speed indicated by the TIV until the next maneuver signal, the next TIV or the stopping point (in l (absence of TIV, the speed is 10 km / h);
    the green light allows passage.
    The shunting signals are controlled by the local shunting stations (PML), which manage the parking positions.
    In line, in the event that they also function as separation signals, they are controlled by train traffic. The signals protecting switches and crossings are ordered:

    either on the job (by operating the lever controlling the needle, or by a remote control generally located in the station);
    either by the PCC of the line, remotely. In the case of inter-line connections, internal documents specify the role of the PCCs on each line, there is no general case.
    In all cases, they are systematically preceded by a repeater signal with two or three indications: a green light for a green maneuver signal, a yellow for a red maneuver signal, and two yellow for a yellow maneuver signal.

    But in the case where the repeater signal also acts as a separation signal, it can then present three or four indications: green, red, yellow, or two yellow if the signal concerned precedes a maneuver signal with three lights.

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    In addition to the separation and maneuver signals, the driver has a number of additional indicators.
    Tunnels and viaducts sometimes create areas where visibility is reduced. In a tunnel, these zones are indicated with the help of markings painted on its piers, comprising:

    black and white bands indicating the start of the reduced visibility zone;
    black and white mirlitons then distributed at regular intervals along the area of reduced visibility;
    black and white bands
    indicating the end of the reduced visibility zone.
    On the viaduct parts, these markings are installed on the lateral metal structures of the deck supporting the track.
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    Rail signaling Part 2:

    Speedometer panel (TIV):

    Speedometer boards consist of white numbers on a black background. They are used to indicate the maximum authorized speed. They can be found on track or associated with a maneuver signal if they precede a switch.
    70px-Métro_de_Paris_-_Indicateur_TIV.png

    Traction current supply indicator:

    The traction current supply indicator consists of small white illuminated squares on a black background, generally forming a "+". The vertical bar, which forms a cross, represents the supply of traction current to the tracks. In the event that the traction current is cut (following an electrical incident, for example), the indicator then displays a "-" allowing the driver to indicate the absence of traction current.
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    Departure on order (DSO):

    Departure on order is an indicator made up of three small white lights arranged in a triangle. Its ignition makes it possible to retain the trains in station. When it is on, the three lights that make up the signal flash simultaneously. Its extinction authorizes the departure of the train (if no other signal comes to contradict this order). Generally, the extinction of this signal is accompanied by a prolonged audible signal intended for the driver. The departure on order is likely to be used for regulation purposes by the line regulator by slowing down a train (prolonged parking in a station) or by accelerating a train (shortened parking in the station). It can also be the result of the de-energization of part or all of the line, or of the ordering of a signposted temporary service.
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    Provisional service (SP):


    The SP indicator consists of the inscription "SP" in a luminous block on a black or blue background. This indicator, when flashing, warns the driver of the establishment of a provisional service at this station, that is to say of a provisional terminus requiring a change of direction of the train.

    This indication is supplemented by two indicators: "DEPARTURE" and "QUAI 1" or "QUAI 2", with fixed lighting, when the change of tracks is made upstream of the platform where the train arrives. The "DEPART" indicator specifies that the train must leave online directly from this platform, while the "QUAY" indicator specifies that the train must go to the platform of the opposite track. These indications are only present for provisional signposted services: in communications with simplified or even non-signposted equipment, only an “SP” indication on a slate placed at the head of the platform indicates the setting up of a provisional service.

    Provisional service is the consequence of a traffic disruption which may be unforeseen (incident, safety measures, material damage) or foreseen (works). In order not to stop the traffic on the whole line, the regulation sets up provisional services on the portions of line which can be operated in complete safety and which have the necessary switches and crossings for the overturning of the trains.

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    Illuminated indicator of authorization to leave the station (ILADS)

    The ILADS indicator consists of a bright white circle. This indicator warns the driver of the correct closing of the station landing doors (main doors, emergency doors and platform end doors). By its nature, this indicator is only found in stations equipped with platform facades, that is to say stations on manual lines equipped with landing doors (eg Châtillon - Montrouge or between Montparnasse - Bienvenüe and Place de Clichy on line 13)

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    Rail signaling Part 3:

    Direction indicators:
    The direction indicator informs the driver of the direction given to his train if the indications of the maneuver signals are insufficient.

    It can take, depending on the case, two forms:

    attached to a signal, it is in the form of a square of diodes displaying the marker of the track towards which the train is headed (for example T for the sidewalk) or 0 if the train is performing a 0 maneuver (turning over to the platform );
    in the form of a rectangular table, as at La Fourche and Maison Blanche stations due to the fork in the tracks, where the destinations (Asnières-Gennevilliers / Saint-Denis or Ivry / Villejuif) of the different branches to which the train can be directed are listed .

    Regulating pendulum:
    At the head of some docks is sometimes a case with four pendulums, lettered A, B, C and D, as shown in the illustration at the beginning of this article. These clocks allow the driver to know if he is early, on time or late. Each letter corresponds to a period of service; when a train arrives at the quay, only the period clock remains on.

    Letter of Service Period
    A: evening rush
    B: Morning rush
    C: Off-peak hours during the day
    D: Off-peak hours in the evening

    When leaving his original terminal, the driver sees his train set with a departure time (in hours, minutes and seconds, for example 10:05:00). When he arrives at a station on the route equipped with this box, only one of the clocks remains on and indicates the time (in minutes and seconds) at which he should have left the original terminal if he had driven at normal speed. If the clock shows an earlier time (for example 04:30), this means that the driver has left in advance, here by 30 seconds (at 10:04:30), and vice versa if the clock shows a later time
     
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    I'm amazed at the good job you're doing. Keep it up!
     
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    souleymane#2785 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you very much for your comment, it makes me happy. It has to attract gamers of the game. That it can change and that we finally have a French and Parisian line. :)
     
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    souleymane#2785 Well-Known Member

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    Here are some videos of line 13 during rush hour and a video in the cabin in the Saint Lazare- Miromesnil interstation What do you think jdavison#3053 ? Good viewing everyone ;)



     
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    Sorry, I have to answer first to be able to see the videos you post, I don't know why it is the only way to see them XD ...
    I will replay this comment to tell you my opinion.
     
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    I think if they really try to replicate the rush hour of this line, the game would be crashed or CTD hahahaha...
     
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    Lol if not, put the quantity of travelers like the bakerloo line to avoid crashes
     
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