Class 150/1 Scenarios Not Appearing

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  1. blazinlet#6971

    blazinlet#6971 Member

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    I bought the Class 150/1 DLC for the South Wales Coastal route but the scenarios aren't appearing and it seems that the Class 150/1 was intended for the old South Wales Coastal route that got removed from the store. Is that why the scenarios won't appear? (However I do have both old and new South Wales Coastal routes, so I'm still confused as to why the scenarios won't appear)
     
  2. Nick Y

    Nick Y Well-Known Member

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    I had this issue when I first got SWC (the unbranded, longer one). I contacted DTG support and the reply was basically you don't have the route the scenarios were for (the original Bristol - Cardiff) so you don't get them because they weren't brought over to the newer, longer, unbranded SWC (Bristol - Swansea) and there were no plans to update them (or the store listing).
    I wrote a review on Steam basically warning people that if they buy it now and have the new version of SWC, they won't get the scenarios.

    I also have both versions (I obtained a previous years key that contained the route) but never checked if the scenarios appeared for the older version.

    Are you checking under career scenarios?
     
  3. blazinlet#6971

    blazinlet#6971 Member

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    Yes, I am
     
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    AirbourneAlex Well-Known Member

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    There were originally two South Wales Coastal routes, the first one which went from Bristol to Cardiff, then later an extended one that went to Swansea. The Class 150/1 scenarios are for the Swansea version, which you won't have if you purchased the Cardiff version.
     
  5. blazinlet#6971

    blazinlet#6971 Member

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    I have purchased both the Swansea and Cardiff route, and they both appear in my career and quick drive menus, so that's why I'm still confused as to why I don't get the scenarios
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    Are they both the branded versions though? Owners of the Cardiff segment got the unbranded Swansea one but not the discontinued branded version which the scenarios are for specifically (I know it's confusing...)

    It looks like you have the unbranded version installed as it's called "South Wales Main Line" as opposed to "South Wales Coastal: Bristol to Swansea" for the original branded version (unless you have renamed them in-game of course).
     
  7. Nick Y

    Nick Y Well-Known Member

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    It appears that my SWC route only goes to Cardiff and that appears to be the unbranded version (based on the image it gives). It doesn't include the extension to Swansea.
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    South Wales Main Line however does go all the way to Swansea so not sure which version is which.
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    I had to go into quickdrive to find this out.
     
  8. AirbourneAlex

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    There are three South Wales routes:
    1). South Wales Coastal: Bristol to Cardiff (branded - discontinued)
    2). South Wales Coastal: Bristol to Swansea (branded - discontinued)
    3). South Wales Coastal: Bristol to Swansea (unbranded - available)*
    *In-game listed as South Wales Main Line

    If you purchased either 1 or 2, you will have 3.
    The Class 150/1 scenarios are for 2 but you cannot obtain this route unless you purchased it before it was discontinued.
    There is no way of obtaining 2 as far as I'm aware, so anyone who buys the Class 150/1 without owning 2 cannot play the scenarios.
     
  9. Nick Y

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    Yes, I understand that but DTG have not made it clear on their store by stating the route is discontinued (the only hint is when you click on the link saying this requires so and so and it takes you to the store front) and it certainly isn't made clear on Steam (hence a review I made about it not being made clear that if you own the newer, unbranded route you don't get the scenarios).
     
  10. AirbourneAlex

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    TBH a lot of things on the steam store are unclear, a similar problem exists with the scenarios for the North London Line not being obtainable if you buy the Goblin line route first.
     
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    This is true also. I only have the scenarios that came with the merged pack for that (North London and Goblin lines).
    I think the issue is when DTG rereleases a route or merges them and updates them, they don't update the scenarios.
     
  12. blazinlet#6971

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    Yeah it seems I have 1 and 3, not 2. So that would explain why I'm not getting the scenarios
     
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  13. R3dS41ft

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    Could somebody give me the GUID of the old extension please? I am looking for the GUID in Railworks\Content\Routes of number 2 above.
    I wonder if it will be possible to move the scenarios to the unbranded version myself. I found some instructions on the steam workshop that I might try (https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/2190398797/3114769644702777858/).
     
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    SWC Bristol - Swansea 00000068-0000-0000-0000-000000002016
    SWC Bristol - Swansea Unbranded 00000068-a000-0000-0000-000000002016
     
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  15. R3dS41ft

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    Thanks 749006.
    It looks like I have scenarios for the 150 and 67 for the old route. I'll try following the instructions above and see how I get on.
     
  16. R3dS41ft

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    It works fine :). Just follow the instructions in the link along with the directories provided by 749006. One thing to watch for: do not copy the .ap files from the original directory into the new one. Manually copy the scenarios and rename to a new GUID.

    Edit: the class 67 scenarios were included with the new route so only the 150 ones need copied over.
     
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  17. torfmeister

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    Good point. If you just copy scenarios you'll have two with the same GUID. This can lead to weird behaviour like scenarios not showing up at all.
     
  18. R3dS41ft

    R3dS41ft Active Member

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    This has been an eye opener for me! I tried doing the same thing with a scenario from ATS. It also works fine after some stock swaps using TS Tools.
     

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