Ts2022 - Discover The Desiro

My guess is AP has been sitting on the audio files because they already went out and recorded them. I don't know if they initially planned a 700 pack, but the timing of the AP release can do nothing but make DTG look REALLY bad. Sure, they still profit from people buying the train, but they're not going to be able to do an individual 707 or 717 now. This handicaps DTG. Especially if that was a train under development.

DTG needs to nip this before it comes out. And it's hard for me to say that, because I recognize this is a better deal for the consumer. But it hurts the game developer. And that can lead quickly to the game being dropped as a going project. Do we really want that? I would prefer the audio files go in the official Steam project, not in a third-party add-on that continues to divide the community content.

 

The rumour states that MKS and AP are just very close. Although it makes me wonder, how could AP make a 717 without major changes to the model?

DTG's reaction to this will be interesting. If they 'nip this in the bud' it can be a wake up call and hopefully stop this sort of thing from happening in the future; this is a thing that makes DTG seems like morons and AP as the saviour of everything - and with AP being as elitist as it is, reinforcement of that should not happen. Equally, AP's pack will require the purchase of DTG's pack beforehand, so DTG will get their money either way. But if it was my DLC that this was happening to, my choice would be to go down the closed route IHH went down. Blocking the release of the AP pack is also a scumbag move, but when people are insulting my intelligence by (potentially) going behind my back to release redundant content you'd better expect that I'd protect my work.

 

If that is true, MKS will be fully responsible for the damage control.

 

1. MKS will get profit from the enhancement pack (more money)
2. No, this model is recent, you've mixed it with the Superalbs's freeware 70X pack.

 

Exactly. Armstrong Powerhouse has NEVER made a model. It was always done by someone else (waggonz, Gu Studios). AP only enhances the scripting and sounds.
We will see who will be behind the 717.

 

Mark, from where did you get this from?

 

Pretty sure this was a model made by Jordi some time ago and it's just kinda been sitting there due to licencing (and other) issues.

 

1. Who is Jordi
2. Where can it be found?

 

Jordi was/is a member of Master Key Simulations responsible for some of their modelling work. I'm working with information I've heard from other forms here. A lot of these places have talked about AP having sounds for the 700 series long before this product was announced by DTG. I'm not entirely sure what's happened with MKS either, they no longer appear to have a website or facebook page.

As for your second question, I'm not entirely sure what you are asking, sorry.

 

www.armstrongpowerhouse.com

 

I'll say it again. Where can be the model (or it's files) or anything about the BR class 700 found?

 

It wasn't released till now, that is the point. This model was made by a member of the MKS team a couple of years ago and nothing was done with it till now. That is the information that has floated around places like ATS and other pages on the forum here in previous years.

 

Interesting.

 

After digging around a bit I've honestly become more confused. I went onto an ATS stream from when the 700 was first released, Alan talks about the base model being made by Jordi (who I now know to be the director of MKS) around 4 years ago and subsequently built upon by other people.

There's this on their Facebook page, posted by the same person who posted the 717 model.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1524678610893349/user/100027538565228
A comment on this post talks about "brand new recorded sounds" too. So maybe there is some shady stuff occurring in the background. I'm honestly not sure anymore. Either way, it appears that this model is at the very least one year old.

 

The link is invalid :/

 

I noticed that too. Clearly taken down, or just copied wrong.

 

Things got more interesting.

 

To point out what I meant, AP seems to be very quick with the enhancement, and new model (CLass 717). Which is suspicously odd. Since they were doing an update for Wherry lines too.

 

I do agree, it's VERY suspicious.

 

Update: AP confirmed that the class 717 will be AI only, and won't have new cabin.

 

It's still suspicious tho.

 

My bad, I forgot that the ATS Facebook group is private

 

Mind posting a screenshot?