Removed From The Roadmap 22 February 2022

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  1. CryPosthuman

    CryPosthuman Member

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    "Finally, the Train Sim World 2: New Journeys Expansion Pack and the Sand Patch Grade updates have been removed from the Roadmap, because they have now been released." (That's in the Roadmap post from 22. Feb.)

    Can someone please explain to me, what is the meaning of that?
    Why is Sand Patch Grade removed from the preservation roadmap, if literally nothing has changed, fixed, or is done in any way?
    All obvious issues are still there, for example, the missing assets at the quarry a few kilometers outside of Cumberland, up the hill... 20220204183300_1.jpg 20220204183323_1.jpg

    ...or all the wrong configurations of locos, etc.
    I really feel like DTG wants to fool us (I am not saying they doing it, it just looks like that!)
     
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  2. davidh0501

    davidh0501 Well-Known Member

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    Just assume the quarry has been abandoned.
    You're allowed to whisper "by Dovetail" under you're breath.

    Remember it's just a game and they make decisions about what to put in and what to leave out.
    Not everyone will accept their decisions.
    The hardcore train fans will always find something to criticize and the rest don't know enough to comment.
     
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  3. CryPosthuman

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    Well, I criticize it, just because of the fact that it was all there in TSW 2020...
    The migration to TSW2 was not good.
     
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  4. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    I thought we would be getting the new containers as part of the update but it appears that we're still stuck with the CSX liveried containers only.

    Also what on earth has happened to the hills around Cumberland?

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    Was this update rushed through to appease the player base on the delayed PC updates I find myself asking?
     
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  5. BigMountain555

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    I think they should clarify what was actually updated.
     
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  6. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    We have been waiting months for these updates and according to Adam were all finished in early December I don't see 'DTG' being rushed at all. Where there could be a rush is in testing and missing certain things but this imo is definitely not a player base problem it is a DTG problem. If they had a decent editor the player base could correct it.
     
  7. solicitr

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    What month? In late winter/early spring it's not unusual there to have snow on the mountaintops but none lower down.
     
  8. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    Er Id have to check as it was a scenario rather than a timetabled service. But if theres snow on the hills youd expect snow on the trees on the hills, although I guess that could be a distant draw issue perhaps.
     
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    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    In real life you almost never see white, snowy trees; DTG needs to get rid of those. They look like something from a Christmas window display. In reality it's dark trees against white ground.
     
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    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    but the ground around the trees isnt white even when that ground is higher up than "snowy" areas and areas of clearing. It looks odd and Ive never noticed it prior to the update.
     
  11. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

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    It does look very odd. If you zoom in it looks like a blue and white bedspread or comforter laid over the hill top. Never noticed it before. Certainly doesn't look like snow.
     
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  12. DTG Natster

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    The following items were improved on Sand Patch Grade.
    • Added working Grade Crossings.
    • Updated locomotive substitution to reduce chances of Clinchfield SD40 appearing in the timetable.
    • Fixed an issue with the MU2A value in the SD40-2 tutorial.
    • Added contact dispatcher functionality to the radio.
    • Improved independent brakes functionality when working in multiple with other locomotives.
    • Improved RailDriver mapping following player feedback.
    The reason they were removed from the Roadmap is because we have completed and released what was planned.
    This does not mean that SPG will never see the Preservation Crew's attention again.

    Just because an update you would like to see is not in the most recent updates, does not mean we don't care about it or that we're ignoring its existence or that it will never be fixed.

    I am not going to promise the above will get updated but we will let you know if there's any plans to make changes.
     
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  13. Quentin

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    But sometimes the reverse (Munich-bound near Ulm) :)

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  14. CryPosthuman

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    Thank's for your reply! Can you confirm, that the asset issue on the screenshots in the original post is an actual known issue, or is it just on my side? With that hard cut on the treeline, it seems somehow a whole bulk of assets are not loaded/or not in the map data...
     
  15. Crosstie

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    Sand Patch Grade has always been my favorite ( and I think still the best modeled ) route in TSW2. At this point, given the improvements listed above, I'm satisfied that SPG is probably as good as it will ever be. There may be some minor bugs remaining, like the ones mentioned in this thread, but overall I'm happy to play the route as it is. There are a number of other routes that need attention and should be prioritized. SPG is completed.
     
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  16. OldVern

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    I think it may be the only route where you get a reverb sound effect passing through tunnels, too.
     
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  17. Crosstie

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    Yes, I thought this feature had been added recently, along with the auto grade crossings, but I was told it was always there or had been in TSW 2020. Guess I just hadn't noticed it. It does add significant immersion.
     
  18. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    That quarry is on par with Sherman hills
     
  19. redrev1917

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    Its a tad disappointing that we're still stuck with generic monocoloured containers on intermodals given that this update occurred 6 months after the improved containers where initially released on Dresden if I honest.
     
  20. dhekelian

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    Sorry, cannot tell if you are being sarcastic or not? We are still waiting for the preserved updates to be released after months and months and you really think the preserved crew will go back after these fixes? hahahaha, brilliant.
     
  21. Clumsy Pacer

    Clumsy Pacer Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes because the problem lies with Adam's team, and not elsewhere in the company.
     
  22. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    Where did I say it was Adam's fault? And of course the problem does lie elsewhere.
     

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