Windows 11 i5-11600K CPU 32GB Ram, Learning on the TSW2 Sand Patch Grade route. I noticed that when using Sand Patch Grade, my PC Nvidia Performance Overlay shows my (4GB 128-bit GDDR6 GTX 1650 GPU) card Utilizations sometimes goes up at 100%. Not sure if that's good or bad. I did a check on TSW2 video card requirements and the Minimum card is a GTX 750 (with a rated scale of 18%), and the Recommended card is a GTX 970 (with a rated scale of 50%) And my GTX 1650 75w/350w card is (on a rated scale of 43%) So I'm above the TSW2 minimum but below the recommended. Should I get a new GPU? The one I'm liking the looks of is the RTX 3060 because it's rated at 170watts/600w Power Supply and my PSU is a 600w so that card would be at my PSU limit. Or I could go for the RTX 3050 130w/450w. Maybe my card is ok, I'm not sure. I don't want it to over-heat and catch fire lol.
100% usage on GPU is not a bad thing as I see. It means you using 100% of graphics capacity. If you're happy with FPS and screen resolution. nothing to worry about. You have to look for GPU temp to see if it's not overheating.
It's an older card, but anything that would represent a meaningful upgrade is going for obscene prices right now.
You're fine. Good temp., good FPS. Your card is giving you good frame rates, I wouldn't swap it out right now. Anything better is way overpriced and power hungry. NVidia cards are rated by the last 2 digits, so xx60 and up is the only way to upgrade when the time comes. Oh, and your PSU is very marginal for a 3060 anyway. You need at least 750 watts for that card, 850 for comfort and some future proofing.
Your card is OK, but if you have the money available you might want to upgrade it. Keep in mind that Nvidia is expected to release the 4000 series of cards in Q3 2022. Having your gpu at 90%-100% utilization is good. It means that it is working at full capacity. If it is lower it means that your gpu is more powerful than the rest of your system is and it is being underutilized. Now, about the power supply. You can use the online PSU calculator to check if your PSU will be able to power your system + gpu. It will give you an approximate consumption and the recommended wattage for a PSU for any given system components. IMPORTANT: Never be short on your PSU. Your PSU must be able to deliver the required power at any time or you will have all kinds of trouble while using your system. So always be above the recommended with some extra margin. PS: Made a sample build with the list of hardware you wrote above and added an SSD and HDD + a 3060 and the calculator recommends a psu above 438W. So you should be fine if you want to upgrade to a 3060 with a 600W PSU but go and put your exact part list in the PSU calculator site before you buy anything. OuterVision PSU Calculator part list Motherboard: Desktop Socket: Socket LGA 1200 CPU: 1 x Intel Core i5-11600K CPU Speed: 3900MHz CPU Vcore: 1.1V CPU Utilization: 90% Memory: 2 x 16GB DDR4 Module Video Card Set 1: 1 x NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Core Clock: 1320MHz Memory Clock: 1875MHz Storage: 1 x SATA SSD Storage: 1 x SATA 7.2K RPM Keyboard: 1 x Gaming Keyboard Mouse: 1 x Gaming Mouse Fan: 3 x 140mm Computer Utilization: 8 hours per day Gaming / Heavy 3D Application Time: 8 hours per day Load Wattage: 388W Recommended Wattage: 438W Amperage: +3.3V: 9.4A, +5V: 10.2A, +12V: 29.6A Recommended UPS Rating: 750VA Generated by OuterVision PSU Calculator 2022-02-22
Been there. Tsw kept crashing despite clean install. Thought my gpu was dying ,but it was a knackered psu. Modern cards are thirsty beasts.
Not an Upgradel..... but for sure 3050 is at least a little better than 1650. new GPU Arch, I'm not sure but think consumes less power, etc... I saw some tests showing that in some games we can get more FPS than a 1660 (not super or TI).
With help from you guys (thanks), I clicked on some online comparison calculators for my system selecting different GPU cards with my CPU ( i5-11600K ) and the results show my GTX 1650 card is definitely the bottleneck when on TSW2, that's probably why my card is running at 100% utilization, here are some figures on my GPU/CPU bottleneck from a low to a high, with running my screen resolution on 1440p being the worst. -5.6% @ 1080p General tasks -12% @ 1080p GPU tasks -16.6% @ 1440p General tasks -25.3% @ 1440p GPU tasks My card can't keep up with my CPU and 27" monitor when on TSW2. What I realize now is my PSU 600w will be a factor. Thanks for the PSU calculator.
In researching new GPU cards, I see some cards have Ray Tracing and DSLL, not sure what that's for, but does TSW2 have ability to run on cards with Ray Tracing and DSLL?
Thanks for that parts calculator. I used it and put in all my components including a RTX 3060 170 W card and it came to Load Wattage 433 W. The RTX 3050 card is 130 W, Could save 40 watts with a 3050.
I'm on Clinchfield with a Intel i5-11600K cpu and Nvidia GTX 1650 card, please help interpret these numbers if they are good or where the card is weak: GPU GTX 1650 FPS 29-36 99% GPS 26-37 Render Latency 41.3 - 52.7 ms CPU Utilization 5% - 18% GPU Utilization 100% GPU Clock 1680 MHz Memory Clock 6000 MHz GPU Temp 60c Fan Speed 0 RPM GPU Power 69 Watts GPU Voltage 0.9 Volts
Yes, the GPU is the choke point. Your FPS on Clinchfield is no better than mine, with a much weaker CPU but slightly better (1060) graphics card.
also I get a 1 second sound skip every 90 seconds, must be the card that's doing that, I took another caboose ride, thanks
Would a Zotac RTX 2060 12GB 192-bit on sale for $650.00 CAD be a good purchase over my current GTX 1650 128-bit? My card is rated 106 of 673 cards, the 2060 is rated 51/673
Looking at TomsHardware's GPU hierarchy chart, it will approximately double the performance but it will still fall short for 2K monitor gaming. From a performance point of view, you would not want to buy anything less than an RTX 3060 Ti. If you are absolutely locked on that price range or money is a concern, I would take a look at the RTX 3050. It has approximately the same performance, has a newer chipset, uses less power and right now I can find it at Amazon.ca for $50 less (4 units available). Please note: I do not live in Canada, so you might know other stores with better deals, etc ... Also you know if it is difficult to find gpus in stock or not there better than I do.
Firstly, what Inkar says is true. Prices can vary. Find the best deals that you can. Also, what card you choose, depends entirely on how much performance You personally are looking for. RTX 2080 will be More than enough for TSW2 imho, but for Max GPU performance you will need to look into the 30xx series cards.
The 3060 Ti will require me to swap out my 600W psu for a bigger one which I could do but one thing I will definitely do the next time I build a PC is put in a decent psu size, a 600 watt psu use to be plenty before but not anymore. My next PC is getting at least a 1000 watt. Thanks for your post, it's very helpful. It's sort of funny because I was even searching the GTX 1660xx series cards to find something cheaper, but I agree, the 30xx series cards are the way to go, which means I have to decide if I will swap out my psu for a bigger one or keep the psu the way it is and live with my present GTX 1650, and based on the current prices for 30xx series cards, I'd be happy to keep using my present card and psu. That's my thinking right now. Thanks for your post. Actually I've learned a lot of new things lately on psu's and gpu's, so it's all good.
"From a performance point of view, you would not want to buy anything less than an RTX 3060 Ti." A card which by itself costs more than an XBox Series X does. And is even harder to find.
I am glad that you found my post helpful. You are very welcome What ever works best for you and your budget is what counts the most, and also the 30xx cards are very power hungry but even 1000w is overkill imho. When you next decide to upgrade, then go for the Minimum which is 750w for a 3070 or higher, to be safe. It would also be a bit cheaper.
I know high end cards are expensive and probably difficult to find. I'm just trying to give him information and different options so he can decide what is the best course of action for his personal case.
Thanks guys for your posts, you're helping me a lot. So what I did was have a change of plans. I'm going to upgrade the 1650 GPU into 2 stages. First I'll upgrade just the PSU, then when that is done and working ok I'll do the 2nd stage to upgrade the GPU. I called the shop and they can take out the 600w and install a gold 850w, and you're right, 1000w is overkill. When that's accomplished then I can plan a GPU card upgrade of choice.
Once again, you are very welcome Good luck on what GPU you decide to go with in the end. And regarding the replacement of your PSU, Yes the 1000W is indeed overkill. A good quality `Gold` 850W will handle it with ease and give you More than enough headroom, even if you wanted to go for the high end 30xx series card.
Things might get interesting soon because I saw news of Intel coming out with their new GPU cards. Maybe there will be more choices available. Also Nvidia has new 4000 series cards coming. Ha, all i wanted was to play TSW2 without my GPU skipping 1 second of sounds every 90 seconds. Or maybe it's my sound blaster card, I'm just assuming my GTX 1650 GPU is to blame.
