Well, hello, anyone who’s reading this. Today Horseshoe Curve was put on pre-order on Steam, and, well… The price isn’t right. Instead of a standard 515₽ we have to pay for any route (Apart from Luzern - Sursee and Isle of Wight), it’s listed as 1200 (or currently 1080 on sale). Well, I think any of you can tell that it’s just twice as much as a normal price. I attached the screenshots of other DLC prices below, if you don’t believe me that the standard one is 515. Just would like to ask DTG, whether it is now a regular thing to expect, a one-off DLC or just a mistake? Would be glad for an answer.
Showing up as £24.99 for me on steam. (being the regular price) Although looking on steamdb, you're not wrong, I do not notice any difference in price comparing the different DLCs except for the Russian Rouble. Not 100% sure on why this would be.
I've checked and can confirm price is normal in the US, so this is either region specific, or a oversight.
Without getting politicial, doing business in Russia has become more expensive and problematic across all industries. So its not really surprising you have feeling the pain.
Conversely though people in Russia don't have as much money to spend on nonessential products.. Raising the price further just increase the chance they'll pirate it instead of pay for it, then nobody makes money from it. That fact makes me think this is probably a oversight instead of a purposeful raise in price.
Yes, but DTG is a British company which ultimately has to pay its bills in pounds sterling. The exchange rate for the ruble has cratered over the past few weeks because of, well. 515 rubles may have been exchangeable for twenty-five quid back in January, but no longer. As of today, 1080 rubles will get you just £9.90, so it's actually a very low price in terms of DTG's realisable return.
The value of the Ruble recently plummeted, that just takes the new value into consideration. Seems normal to me.
Yet if you're Argentinian you can buy the same route for the equivalent of three American dollars. Not sure what that translates to in British pounds but I know it ain't a lot. Certainly considerably lower than what the Russian's would be paying for it even without the price increase at any rate.
The price is still the same in € (26,99 with Sale, 29,99 without sale). The thing here is that Ruble lost a lot of value since sanctions and stuff severly lowered the stability of the russian economy and therefore its main currency. Currency stability is the magic word here, it has nothing to do with DTG raising the price or something, its just the currency change value of the Ruble that makes the price different.
Without becoming political if Steam (US) is running this into Russia, linked to them etc, it likely has sanctions over every step of the transaction at the moment.Sorry to see that price
Again without being political, why are Steam even continuing to sell stuff in Russia, especially given the horrific images we have seen coming out of Ukraine in the last few days? Besides, I thought Putin had threatened to disconnect Russia from the internet?
China 90 CNY->150 CNY Russia 515 RUB->1080 RUB other region price is normal. If the price increase in Russia is due to the exchange rate, I don't understand what the price increase reason in China, exchange rate or sth?
Yep, 1200 ruble too much. I'am russian. P.S. For those who want to beat all Russians. They didn't ask me when they started shooting.
Heliq. Nobody blames the People of Russia - the Ruble is worth very little now due to the actions of Mr Putin. He alone is to blame.
No but sadly due to things outside your control sanctions are in place, your currency has dropped significantly against major markets so you are paying the price. And personally I certainly don't blame the average man/woman in Moscow (or where ever) for the actions of your president.
I don't think anyone is blaming the russian people. If anything the people of russia are victims of president putin's actions which led to these sanctions in the first place.
149.85562 Chinese Yuan Renminbi=£18 i no buy Horseshoe Curve: Altoona - Johnstown & South Fork Route Add-On
I'm sorry, but that sounds a lot like an accusation. An offer to close Steam to us. Sorry for offtopic, but I'm really worried about prices, DTG please answer.
DTG please answer why Horseshoe Curve: Altoona - Johnstown & South Fork Route Add-On is150 Chinese Yuan Renminbi
I just dont understand why people still dont get the concept of currency values. There is no other answer than currency value. if 150 Yuan equals the 24 british pounds, then so be it. You cant do much about that.
So i did some research and I found that $29.99 equals 2,504.16 in rubles. This is as pointed above this post down to currently value and probably related to the sanctions as well. There is nothing DTG can really do about it. $29.99 USD equals 191.08 Yuan so again it's the value of the currency. Not much dtg can do unless they were willing to lower prices in those regions
In that regards you guys from Russia and China can be glad to still get it cheaper than we people in e.g. Germany. Because 150 Yuan and 1200 rubles are for sure not 24 british punds.
This is what I was thinking. I'd pay £18 all day long but I do appreciate economies and incomes differ depending on country
This is exactly it. Regional pricing must take more into account than a simple currency exchange value. The value of fiat currency comes from the strength and reliability in the government that mints it, not purely productive power. The cost of living versus productive force in different parts of the world varies greatly, so in many countries (like Russia), prices will be lowered to reflect a similar ratio of price versus cost of living. That is why TSC and TSW DLC are usually priced at 500 rubles, despite that being much lower than the simple currency exchange. It has been this way for as long as I can remember, and certainly before Krieg in Europa. Cheers
Didn't tax in China on software recently rise from 10% to 25%, could this account for part of the rise?
So I did a bit more research and 150 yuan is $23.54. 1200 Rubles is $14.41. For the brits $14.41 is 11.03 in Pound Sterling and $23.54 is 18.02 Pound Sterling. So technically russians and chinese players pay less than American and British players but there are understandable factors as to why that is If only dlc's can cost $14.41. The amount of money I could've saved...
Well currently there are two DLCs are priced 150CNY (£18 approx) instead of regular 90CNY (£11 approx) on Steam Mainland China store. The game itself also encountered a price rise last September. I guess most of future route DLCs will be priced at inflated level unless the content is halved (according to the reply from Steam Support) Anyway I’ll no longer buy any DLC at full or preorder price unless I’m able to « immigrate » to low price store like Turkey or Argentina
Yeap 1200 rubels is cheaper then 26$, but this is only 1 dlc with this price. All old dlc, and brand new like NY and Luzerne worth 500 rubels.
But how many big Mac's does a DLC cost you? For us in the UK a loco DLC is currently 3.75 Big Mac's and a route is 7.8ig Mac's. Believe it not it's actually a test that ecomists use to work out the cost of living, or was when I was a lad.
If we belive internet, HSC 6,7 big Mac's, Harlem line or loco DLC only 2,8 big Mac's. But in my opinion main problem is community managers work. They can't say this is new price politic for CIS region or its mistake, we still don't have answer more then 1 week later.
You won't believe it, yes, but the average salary in Russia is only $600+-50. That is why there are regional prices, in Argentina DLC costs only $3. So a direct comparison of prices is not correct.
Well, yes, and if you compare it by the Big Mac index, then the fair exchange rate of the dollar against the ruble is only 23 rubles per 1 dollar. So don't use the bigmack index as something serious. And if we use bigmac exchange rate 26x23= 598rub per DLC, this is work, but not for HSC price/
The Big Mac exchange rate is a serious (okay, semi-serious) attempt to represent the purchasing power of various currencies using an (almost) identical item that's available (nearly) everywhere. But it's irrelevant to DTG - their only concern is "if I price this at 150 Yuan or 1000 roubles, how many £ will end up in my UK bank account?".
The Big Mac index was developed by The Economist as a quick and dirty way to measure relative consumer costs around the world. It is not good at measuring rapid changes in currency values, but often is surprisingly useful over more normal periods.
Okay, but have you ever thought of salaries being different? It's a common knowledge fact that in Europe you can earn often at least 10 times more then in Russia, so it was quite balanced. Until now most companies in Russia are cutting off of people's salaries (Yeah of course it's never DTGs problem, and I understand that) and prices are rising. So now we earn even less to pay more.
Well, "Officially" true, but actually even less. Teachers for example earn around 40.000rub. per month in any standard school, and that's not even the worst paid job. And 40.000rub. isn't technicelly even 500$
