More Focus Needed On Fixing & Improving The Core Game Experience

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  1. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Alas, the 32-channel limit is an unfortunate aspect of Unreal 4, so it applies to all platforms.
     
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    AudioQualityLevel does nothing in the engine.ini file; it needs to be in the GameUserSettings.ini
     
  3. gazz292

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    Ahh yeah, that's where it is :
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    PreferredFullscreenMode=0
    AudioQualityLevel=0
    LastConfirmedAudioQualityLevel=0
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    got my .ini's mixed up.

    RE: the 32 channel limit, it was this thing on the unreal forums that got me into playing with the 'audioQualityLevel' thing.

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    But TSW2 has 4 audio quality levels, it's on 1 stock, might just be my ears that think i am hearing more sounds when i put it on 0, i deffo hear more sounds on the PC version than i do on the PS5 version tho.
     
  4. londonmidland

    londonmidland Well-Known Member

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    Talking of lack of light sources, why do more than half the building assets on the London to Brighton route have absolutely no light source?! I assume this is an issue on multiple other routes, too. Makes it look like there’s been a blackout.

    Come on DTG, how can you get such a basic thing wrong…

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  5. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, when I used to frequently use Trains the stations were so lit up it was like daylight and like you say with the surrounding buildings as well it is like a blackout.
     
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  6. gazz292

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    it's set in the year 2023, domestic electricity now costs £150 a kW/h,
     
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  7. antwerpcentral

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    I've seen the streams, I read the forums, I'm contributing to topics in the PC forum about stuff lacking in TSW2 that can't even convince me to get a PS5 for this game. If the game on PC would not show one stutter during gameplay you would be right but that is not the case. I know enough about this game on all platforms that I can say with good faith that TSW2 is not a game to buy new hardware for. For me there is nothing next gen about this game at all. What is delivered on PS5 and PC could be delivered on a PS4. This would have taken another approach than the one DTG used and probably a bigger team but don't tell me that because I don't own a PC I have no idea of what to expect of TSW2 on PC. Gran Turismo 7 is a game that shows me I need to upgrade to a PS5 to get more realism. The amount of detail on the PS4 is so amazing that I really want to play this on PS5. Upgrading to a PS5 or PC does not give me more realism in TSW2, it just loads faster, looks better, has more AI, more people and runs smoother. Not enough to convince me to upgrade. See if I buy a PC, I can't play GT7 on it ;)
     
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    I have not made any changes to the gameusersettings.ini file, but on checking I see that AudioQualityLevel=0. Disappointing, since I figured I could up the sound quality by making a change:|
     
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    bummer,
    mine was on AudioQualityLevel=1.

    so i did get a change.

    But that will never fix how attenuated the sounds are in the cab, it's like wearing a pair of ear defenders,
    and i'm not sure if we are at the max sound chanel limit when in the cab... as things like the air compressor in the BR112 can't be heard in the cab, but it can be heard outside it.
     
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  10. StenioBlackHawnk

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    But wait, should I change my audio quality ini to 1 or 0?
     
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    it's backwards... 0 is maximum sounds,

    3 is minimum sounds.

    and 1 and 2 are in-between.

    When i set mine on 3, i heard sounds i didn't hear before, but things like the switch clicks in the cab are missing, when in max number of sounds played at once mode (0) i guess some sounds are played too quietly and get swamped out by others?


    i really hoped this was all that was causing the limited sounds in the cab, but alas it's not that simple.
     
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  12. dhekelian

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    You said you wouldn't buy new hardware for one game but then say you would buy a PS5 for GT7?

    You do make some fair points and I own a PS4 pro and an XBOX series S but honestly with the outstanding bugs on the next gen consoles I wouldn't go anywhere near TSW2 on there.

    Just out of curiosity, isn't there a little backlash against GT7? Thought I heard something, could be wrong though.
     
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  13. antwerpcentral

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    PS5 is not one game. PS5 is all the games I already own and GT7. There are other games as well I would buy like Spiderman Morales en Horizon Forbidden West. Games I wait to buy until a PS5 is available at normal pricing. GT7 is a game I would not wait for because it has no story line.

    Yes, there was a big backlash about GT7's payout system. Polyphony had lowered the payout for races in an update 2 weeks ago. This week Polyphony released a new update and fixed the payout system. I don't want to draw comparisons here between DTG and Polyphony because we are talking totally different budgets.
     
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  14. Mattty May

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    You need to get over and accept the fact this game is on console. It’s TSW’s biggest audience and I doubt DTG has any plans to change that at all.
     
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  15. gazz292

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    erm... i own it on PS5,
    also on PC... glad i do have it on PC as i get more features, timetables and routes to drive etc, and everything i bought for the PC version was cheaper than i paid for the PS5 version... and i've bought nothing so far at full price, everything i bought in the sales.

    I also own TS20xx and with a few little free add ons people have made, i get full controller support for my levers and switches, and things like a fully working EBuLa (that tracks your position in the sim and updates the route plan accordingly) plus the rest of the trains 'dashboard' on android tablets around the area my controllers are, giving me a sort of virtual driving cab.

    that kind of thing will never come to consoles in tsw2, and the way things are looking, they may never come to the PC version because the consoles can't handle stuff like that :(

    That's what i am talking about 'being held back'
     
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  16. antwerpcentral

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    But nothing of what this topic is about is hindered by the consoles. You really need to come to grip with the fact that ditching the consoles would mean the PC version would be build with a much smaller budget. The PC version isn't hindered by consoles. The PC version benefits from the bigger budget that consoles create and makes a PC version viable. You are not being held back. You are benefiting from the consoles
     
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  17. dhekelian

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    I'm not saying it would but you cannot deny with DTG seriously messing up on the consoles, Memory, Sounds, layers not on old gen, ETC ETC makes TSW2 look like a car crash. If I were to be able to get hold of a PS5 or bought an Xbox series X I honestly NOT would put TSW2 on it especially with all the deleting of DLC you have to on the PS5 for instance if you have a lot of DLC. Or the sound issues on the XBox.

    I have the XBox series S and I bought TSW2 to go on there but I think I have only played it once in like 4 months on there and that now suffers from memory issues. I see this thread as not PC v Consoles (PC version has problems to) but the need to address the core issues. They keep releasing every now and then more DLC which only kicks these issues down the road. The only sure way to get these issues addressed is to stop buying the DLC but I do not see that happening so I don't see the more serious issues on the consoles being fixed.
     
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  18. gazz292

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    yeah i did take this thread off topic a bit, sorry about that, i was trying to query if making a sim work on different platforms was a good thing,
    From a purely money making aspect it obviously is,

    But is it a 'finger in too many pies' thing,

    They have to try and make the game work on 3/5 totally different systems (pc, ps4, ps5, xbox 1, xbox x)

    I know DTG are a small company, i doubt they have 3 separate dev teams, one specialised in and working on each platform.
    there's the core issues of the entire sim, then all these separate issues that either affect you or don't depending on which system you are playing on.

    and there's the risk of 'fix it on one platform, break it on another' and the need to hold back on certain features because they wont work on some platforms,
     
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  19. Franck69

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    I believe that as the base engine was conceived, many things I saw in this post cannot be implemented.
    I give a small example by eluding just a couple of positive things about a free train simulator (which I do not mention).
    Well, the programmers have managed to do some interesting things that increase the immersion of the game.
    The AI trains, in a random way, when they pass in some station sound the horn. So it is not uncommon that, while you are stationary with your train, in a station to carry out the passenger service, a train arrives and rings. Every time you open the same scene, the weather can vary, sometimes it's sunny and sometimes it's raining.
    Minimal but efficient HUD, with a dynamic train card.
    Radio communications. When you arrive at a station and open the doors to let passengers off, when it's time to leave, you are notified by a radio communication, then close the doors and go.
    Slowdowns due to works along the line.
    These are just some of the interesting things.
    Obviously in terms of graphics it is not comparable to TWS2.
    Greetings
     
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  20. londonmidland

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    Not sure if this is the appropriate thread for this but I will be applying this mod to as many UK routes as I can. To new applicable routes, anyway.

    Long story short, it improves the signal visuals, especially the LED signals, by adding a brand new light spread effect within the lens. Additionally, the colour of the signals has changed from jet black to dark grey, with added scratch/used marks around the signal. new led.png
     
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