London Underground Jubilee Line Stratford-stanmore

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  1. karan#5946

    karan#5946 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we should do the jubilee line with 1996 stock trains going from Stratford to Stanmore going up to 62 mph
     
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  2. fabdiva

    fabdiva Well-Known Member

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    Line is Automated, so probably not the best experience
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    1990s build have Platform Screen doors. If you are not used to the automated signaling you will end up slamming on to the back of another train basically SPAD Signal Passed at Danger.
     
  4. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Personally the London underground is quite boring to drive and as mentioned this line is automated so it would be even more boring.
     
  5. karan#5946

    karan#5946 Well-Known Member

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    No it has drivers because there are ones that have drivers
     
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    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    But I don't believe they do much though.
     
  7. maxthum

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    Yes, there are drivers but only to conduct safety procedures like opening and closing the doors and literally pressing the 'Start ATO' button, the train would literally drive until the next station and repeat...

    Tho if this line was set prior to the ATO introduction in 2010... just maybe.
     
  8. OldVern

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    Tube lines are really only worth doing in non ATO era. (Which rules out the Victoria Line altogether). Problem with Jubilee is that it's another end to end route like Bakerloo (and Stanmore used to be part of the Bakerloo Line at one point), also running alongside a likely empty National Rail section for several miles, plus the Met. If DTG were to do another tube route, either the Northern Line in its entirety or maybe Central Line (pre ATO) would be better options.
     
  9. fabdiva

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    That's correct. Based on experience with the Docklands Light Railway, platform Edge Doors are now required on new or converted driverless systems. So TfL keeps someone at the front to hit emergency stop if needed (and work doors and press start) - it is cheaper to do that then upgrade a line that is 120 years old to the standards required for Driverless.
     
  10. karan#5946

    karan#5946 Well-Known Member

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    Did you know when you sit where the driver seat use to be you can lift the thing up and the all the horn will be there it use to be a driver panel
     
  11. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    What on the DLR?
     
  12. karan#5946

    karan#5946 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah you can actually see the panel if you open the closed panel at the front seats at the first carriage it’s on the left front seats
     
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    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    That's quite cool actually. I know what I am going to have to do when I next go down to London!
     
  14. fabdiva

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    You won't see much - the panels are locked.

    These controls are generally for emergency only - at busy periods the Train Captain will sit there to be ready on the emergency stop.

    Manual Driving is limited to walking pace and only to the next station.
     
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    Coastway trainspotter Well-Known Member

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    Not necessarily . The option is there for automatic operation , but it is encouraged that drivers operate the train manually
     
  16. fabdiva

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    It is not - with frequency increases ATO is needed to hit the timetable as trains are running closer together. As far as I know only the Central encourages manual driving - and then only at the extremities during evenings and Sundays... North Acton to Leytonstone is pretty much 100% ATO
     
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    Honestly as you said it isn't encouraged too much now to drive manually as the Trains Per Hour is high. Honestly the only kind of Underground routes that are feasible are the Piccadilly, District, Circle, H&C and Metropolitan. It is true that the Sub surface lines are partly ATO but you can still set the route Pre March 2019 when those ATO sections were manual.
     
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    This suggestion isn't bad but for me I'd prefer the Sub surface lines because it is different to what we have right now.
     
  19. Asheix

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    The benefit of TSW 2 being a game, is that it doesn't have to match the real-world experience 1:1. Yes, a lot of the Underground is automated including the Jubilee Line, but so what? The good thing about TSW 2 being a game is that the automation part can simply disappear like magic.
     
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    It's a game and a simulator. A sim-cade I believe people called it. It might more or less be advertised as a game, however the Simulation/Immersion aspect of it should not be underestimated in it's importance.
     
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    And given that there are complaints that the PIS is the wrong font - I'm pretty sure there would be complaints if the ATO was skipped.
     
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    More than happy with a fully backdated Bakerloo including its old branch to Stanmore. That would be more interesting.
     

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