Riesa Leipzig

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  1. martschuffing

    martschuffing Well-Known Member

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    Is anyone stoked for this route... I am! :love:


     
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    Me too. Looks like it has a bit of everything. Freight, high speed, rapid transit, commuter, etc. Plenty of locos and rolling stock, plus mileage. This is what I like about TS Classic DLC over those found on TSW2. You get more content.
     
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  3. Kim Olesen

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    Certainly autobuy for me.
     
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  4. Kim Olesen

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    So with enough pizza and coffee we can now drive from Berlin Gesundbrunnen, to the Czech border ;)

    (I know it sounds like i’m being ironic, but i might do it one day :) )

    Really i would love to see all holes in the german austrian TS network connected. Not necesarily by the route you would take IRL, but just connected somehow.

    Think about the Bavarian/Austrian TS network. It’s huge. Later in the year when RSSLO have brought out Wien - Linz You can go from Wien to Kempten via Innsbruck. Or Ingolstadt -Brenner via Wels etc etc

    My geography ocd loves this LOL
     
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  5. PhÜnKî_Rø0sTā

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    So does this mean we could see a merge of Berlin-Wittenburg, Heart of Berlin, Berlin-Leipzig, Seddin Freight route and Leipzing-Reisa-Dresden?
     
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  6. Kim Olesen

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    Not the same route origin coordinates, so no. Also the huge route this would create would be so heavy on the system, that you would not be able to run much on it. No fun in driving all the way from Gesundbrunnen, if all tracks are empty of AI trains.
     
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    Berlin- Leipzig is the extension of the Berlin - Witterberg route so unable to merge
     
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    The seen AI only differs as the Quick Drive/Freeroam scenario differs, so as normal QD or Freeroam.
    When using a Real Drive Quick Drive by Kim Olesen you will of course have more variation and stumble on some delays once in while bringing even more realism.

    Route chaining only gives you the immersed illusion that you drive the whole route as one.
     
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  11. Kim Olesen

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    I think i’ll try the Third Rails Fahrplan thing. Sounds like a great addition to the immersion.
     
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    This is a rare case where I plan to explore the route on my channel the day it's out. Already planning for the 101 scenarios on the first half to debut tomorrow and Wednesday in leading up to it. This looks like it will be great. Provided it's done right, that is.
     
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  13. martschuffing

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    Honestly, they would have been better off making it a clone because these kind of changes may cause official scenarios to not work. And now anything on their site will require the update. So cloning the route and making the changes would be much smarter to do.

    The question is what they would omit to make the route not function, such as Geo files. So they could only provide things they edited, not the entire route. From there, they would have to instruct users to copy (not move) the route AP archive over to the new location.
     
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  15. 749006

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    So Obviously you Read the Information on the Download Page - I don't read German so I used Google Translate.

    Which part of what they did would cause errors in scenarios to appear?
    If you think they might appear then you could clone the route and Scenarios then revert the Original Route to Default Condition.
     
  16. Cyclone

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    It's more that I am not sure editing the route itself is ever a good idea since the route would revert to a package state if Steam ever had to verify some files or anything. It would interest me if scenarios made for the updated route work for the original. After all, signalling would be different, etc.
     
  17. Kim Olesen

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    If all markers are the same, and all main signals are in the same place, there really should be no problem. I don’t recall what that mini upgrade is, since i never installed it, but the modders at Rail-Sim.de are pretty skilled in knowing what they are doing. I eould go so far as to say that in terms of TS knowledge, it’s THE place to be. Perhaps number one in the world even.
     
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  18. martschuffing

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    Although thats the 1442....
     
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    If you bothered to look at the download you would see it is for the Talent2 BR1442
     
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    Yes but if you're not blind it says here 442 upload_2022-4-25_16-12-25.png
     
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    The Author calls it an update for the BR442
    There is no real different between a BR442, BR1442, BR2442 - it just depends on the area the trains run
    And the picture on RailSim.de is of the BR1442 that comes with the route
    1442.jpg
     
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    I was replying to another person - not you
     
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    Hence why I deleted the post. I misread for a moment. :D
     
  25. martschuffing

    martschuffing Well-Known Member

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    Soooo, am I forgiven, or is it handbags at dawn?
     
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    Reverser handles to the tip of the Pass at dawn. First to drop it gets a wedgie.

    I think that's how it works. Maybe not.

    But yeah, all's good. :D
     
  27. martschuffing

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    Yikes, I surrender!
     
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    Another bump, having acquired this with the Chinese (!) bundle.

    Is it me or is the route missing speed limit posts and advance warnings, other than via the signals? Not far out of Riesa on a semi fast run from Leipzig, I got a sudden drop from 200 km/h to 160 km/h. No advance yellow board, no commencement board and nothing on the HUD.

    Otherwise it's a nice route, if a bit unremarkable scenery wise and no challenging gradients. In fact the Dresden to Riesa section is probably more visually appealing. Having already driven that multiple times in TSW, at a bit of a loss why it gets requests over there for extension to Leipzig.
     
  29. torfmeister

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    Vern, track speed signs above 140 km/h are not existing in reality. There is no need for a 160 km/h warning as you have to be running in LZB mode to go faster - and LZB will display the speed limits.

    Also speed changes due to signals are of course not displayed trackside. A green/yellow aspect will not show for speeds higher than 80 in RL (as PZB will force you to go below 85 km/h).

    If you want to see everything on the HUD, there's an override though. You can display all speed changes on the HUD (can look a bit messy in places by overlapping speed indications). You must edit the RouteProperties.xml and change <HasSpeedsigns> from "1" to "0".
     
  30. OldVern

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    Thanks Torf. For some reason the 442 starts with safety systems isolated and I was thrashing it up to 185 km/h! I will enable the PZB/LZB and keep speed to 160. Strange as unlike TSW, TSC normally does load with the systems operational. Probably user error on my part...
     
  31. torfmeister

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    Actually very little is "hardcoded" in TSC.

    It's up to the loco developer in which state the systems are on startup, defined in the EngineScript.out.
     

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