Will They Add An Njt Route For Tsw?

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  1. trainmasteraiden

    trainmasteraiden Active Member

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    Does anyone know will they add NJT Route for TSW2 Roadmap Update On May 3rd?
     
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  2. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Will they add a NJT route to TSW? Most likely. Will it be on the next road map? I doubt it.
     
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  3. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to about it. Their first route should be the RVL Raritan Valley Line since it has an unique service pattern Off peak weekdays High Bridge/ Raritan to NY Penn Mode switch Newark Penn . Rush Hours High Bridge/Raritan-Newark ALP-45DP
     
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  4. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Eventually, since DTG have obtained a license from NJT (for TS). To date the only commuter lines in the US for which they have licenses are the ones already in game: MTA, MBTA and Caltrain, so New Jersey is a likely candidate, unless they can scare up a license from, say, SEPTA, MARC or Metra.
     
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  5. w2sjw

    w2sjw Active Member

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    I have to disagree with RVL - even though it's the line that runs right through my hometown, the Morristown or Montclair-Boonton line should be a solid candidate to showcase the power switchover of the ALP-45DP at Dover.
     
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  6. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Okay then how about train simulator classic North Jersey Coastline ALP-45DP at Long Branch Mode switch for New York Penn Station. My mother's friend uses Avenel railway station as a regular user when my mom worked in Manhattan. Pure electric action Northeast Corridor Trenton NYC.
    These take 30-50 min one of these is the 3:25 (15:25) New Brunswick to New York Penn Express
    RVL great route for those that want NJ Transit Diesel action PL42AC but cannot run on Atlantic City line due to vibrations. Mode Change ALP-45DP occurs at Newark Penn an example is the 10:48 NY Penn 12:26 Annandale 12:36 High Bridge
     
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  7. Felix Costa

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    I'm just curious,
    Is it necessary to get a license to create a route?
    For example I may get in trouble if I create a route but use different names for commuter/freight brands?
     
  8. skyMutt

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    It's somewhat possible, but the line separating what's legal from what's not is very very thin and rather blurry, so ultimately this is a big risk.

    The gist for how DTG usually goes about this is to obtain licensing rights directly from a TOC (Train Operating Company), who of course operates the line/route in the real world. Usually just this alone is enough, as it can cover certain branding and the trains they operate. The benefit of having a relationship with a TOC is huge, but most of all it can (sometimes) allow really good access to certain things, like timetables or technical specifications for trains, things like that.

    If one were to bypass this entire step and just go straight into creating a route, well, it'll be like trying to maneuver through a minefield in a legal sense. Certain buildings can be copyrighted, branding, logos, ads, the trains themselves. They would all have to be some fictional work that you created yourself.
    And of course the biggest hurdle from all this, is that your player base will have to be okay with that. Often the case is that it's not. People heavily prefer actual branding with the things that are there in the real world being there in the game world as well. Otherwise it's just seen as cheaping out.

    There was even a point where DTG came out and admitted that they once had a route DLC that was getting ready for release, with all the legal stuff being worked out while simultaneously the route was being developed. And it turned out that they weren't able to get the licensing at the last minute, meaning that the whole project had to be canceled.
    It indeed goes to show just how important that licensing is taken when it comes to simulators.
     
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  9. Tomas9970

    Tomas9970 Well-Known Member

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    Generally nobody cares as long as you aren't making money out of it and therfore making money out of using the branding.
     
  10. junior hornet

    junior hornet Well-Known Member

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    What’s a NJT route?
     
  11. mrchuck

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    New Jersey transit like the ratain valley line or north Jersey coast line.
     
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  12. steveownzzz#6107

    steveownzzz#6107 Well-Known Member

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    Probably eventually, and I'll probably call out from work the day it comes out. I'm all about the ALP-45DP.
     
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  13. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Which route? For me the RVL because my mom was on one yesterday RVL 5197 10:48 NY Penn 00:26 Annandale 00:36 High Bridge mode switch Newark Penn Station where it's there at 23:08 using the UK Europe 24 hour clock format for Railway instead of the US Canada English speaking part 12 hour clock format.
     
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    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Imo, if and when DTG does do a NJT route, I would expect the 1st route to be a joint operation with the NEC reusing the ACS64, and 1 of NJTs locos. Then a later route would be NJT only with the one Loco reused with another new loco on side, at least based on DTGs recent record of only including 1 new Loco in recent releases...
     
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