Xbox Cab Flickering List

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  1. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Well-Known Member

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    On series X a cab flickering issue appeared around the time of the releases of Boston sprinter, an update was brung out what reduced the occurrence of this issue

    however the issue still persists, this thread will be a list of the all the locos I have where this issue occurs and on what part of the train

    this will be edited as I add to this list

    i tested with cab still and cab whilst running under speed

    Class 43 Cab

    -AWS Sunflower
    -In cab class and unit number plate
    -wiper control panel

    Class 166 Cab

    - Small flicker in corner of grey background texture next to door close right button

    Class 66 DBS Cab (GWE variant) (Green interface)

    Non noticed

    Class 47 Cab (Available on diesel legends variant)

    -flicker on engine stop wording
    -flicker on engine stopped wording
    -flicker on engine wheel spin wording
    -flicker on both steam on and off switches wording
    -flicker on both Heat on and off switch wording

    Class 45 Cab (Available on diesel legends variant)

    Non noticed

    Class 101 BLG Cab (Available on diesel legends variant)

    Non noticed

    Class 08 BLU Cab (Available on diesel legends variant)

    -Tip of the MpH needle on the one that you can rotate side to side

    Class 31/1 BLU Cab (Available on diesel legends variant)

    Note: wheel spin, alarm and engine stopped very difficult to read

    no flickering noticed

    Class 52 Cab (Diesel Legends)

    No flickering noticed

    766.2 Cab (Rapid Transit)

    -main front digital screen white divider lines very flickery

    767.2 Cab (Rapid Transit)

    -main front digital screen white divider lines very flickery

    BR143 (Rapid Transit)

    -front left digital screen white divider lines quite flickery
    -number 2 white square background next to the phone is flickery (whilst accelerating noticed more)

    BR1442 (Rapid Transit)

    -power display on main front screen to the right of speedometer Quite flickery
    -centre screen black lines quite flickery

    BR182 (Rapid Transit)

    -left centre power display ring quite flickery inside
    -right centre speedometer ring quite flickery inside
    -destination up on interior pis controls button symbol bit flickery
    -258 buttons on pis cab controls quite flickery

    (Will be checking next in near future route: WSR)
     
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  2. Kobebeef

    Kobebeef Active Member

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    I'd like to add also

    Sand patch grade: AC4400CW, the locomotive number In the cab is flickering
     
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  3. shimarin

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    Vossloh G 6
    * The Rangierfunk's 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 buttons flickers on the short hood side (2) driving position. The bottom of the exit sign above the door towards the short hood end flickers. Both in-cab train number stickers flickers.

    MTA M3A (HAR)
    * The Lights 1 2 3 wording flickers on the left upper control panel

    LIRR M3
    * The "Lights 1 2 3" wording flickers on the left upper control panel
    * The "This unit is equipped with a new ATC (Daily) Departure Test" wording flickers

    MTA M7A (HAR)
    * Gauge Lights Dimmer and the Cab Gimbal Light Dimmer flickers
    * The wordings on the switch panel behind the driver sometimes flicker

    LIRR M7
    * Stuff flickers on the Aspect Display Unit
    * Gauge Lights Dimmer and the Cab Gimbal Light Dimmer flickers
    * The wordings on the switch panel behind the driver sometimes flicker

    ACS–64 (NECBP)
    * Everything flickers on the Cab Signal system panel (right to the main screen)
    * The position indicator line on every turn switch flickers
    * Most wording on the control desk flickers (Wiper, Windshield Heat, Windshield Wash, every button on the radio, Cab Heater, HVAC Emergency Shutdown…)

    BR Class 66 DBS/EWS (GWE)
    * The train number on the front if the train (but only on the #1 cab end?) flickers

    AC4400CW (SPG)
    * Train number flickers in the cab (above the radio) (both YN2, and YN3b)
    * Outside: One of the "Danger! Autostart Equipped" sticker flickers (YN3b only)

    BR182 (RT)
    * The wordings/pictograms of the turn switches near the phone flickers

    BR185.5 MRCE / BR185 Railpool
    * The pictograms above the Signal Lights switch flickers

    BR363 (DRA)
    * The "Zeitbegrenzer ZB99–60" wording flickers (with cab light on, and in a tunnel)

    BR442 3-car (DRA)
    * The 3 lines of the brake/tractive force meter are flickery from the default distance

    CTC3 (NECBP)
    * The little lines around the reverser are flickery

    Class 31/1 (TVL)
    * The lines around the brake selector switch and the compressor changeover switch are flickery

    Class 313/2 (ECW)
    * The PICB and the CACB wordings are flickery on the switch board

    Class 314 (CCL)
    * The wording with white background on the switch panel (ie Lighting-set, GSM-R UPS enable) are flickery (only when in a tunnel?)

    Class 375/9 (SEHS)
    * The Danger! Live Rail sticker behind the driver is flickery
    * "Door open" (x2), "SDO release" (x2), "Caution use sparingly to preserve sand for braking use", "Emergency Call", "Shoes up/MCB Open", "Wash/wipe controls" wordings are flickery. The warning horn's dark grey background, and the wiper turn switch's position indicator line are also flickering.

    * Class 377/4 (ECW)
    * "Door open" (x2), "SDO release" (x2), "DRA Push- Set / Pull - Reset", the train car lenght numbers, "Speed set adjust" and the little arrows, "Shoes up/MCB Open", "Hazard Lights", "Wash/wipe controls", and the wordings on the switch board are flickery. The wiper turn switch's position indicator line and the AWS button's yellow background are also flickering

    Class 387/2 (LBN)
    * The wiper turn switch's position indicator line, the "Coast", the "Fast", and the wordings on the switch board are flickery.

    Class 40
    * The lines around the brake selector switch and the compressor changeover switch are flickery

    Class 47 (WSR)
    * The "Fire Alarm Test Test" wording is flickering

    Class 47/4 (NTP)
    * The "Train Heat On / Off" and the "Steam On / Off" wordings are flickering

    Class 52 (GWR)
    * The "Fuel Transfer Pump Isolating Switch" and the "Battery Amps" wording is flickering. The "ESIS (A)" and the "Front" wording are extremely far from the surface

    GP38-2 (SPG)
    * The "Acceleration (MPH/Min)" wording flickers

    GP38-2 UP (SMH)
    * The volume up/down arrow flickers on the radio

    GP38-2 (OSD)
    * The "AFM Indicator" wording is flickery
    * The volume up/down arrow flickers on the radio

    GP9RM
    * The distance counter numbers are flickery
    * (The thin lines on the control panel are super flickery (not because of z-fighting) in the default camera view)

    ES44AC (HSC)
    * Every wording flickers on the switchboard behind the driver's seat
    * The lines are flickery around the front and the back headlight switch
    * The "Warning! Always turn off "Autostart Switch" sticker is flickery on the outside

    F40PH-3C (NECBP)
    * The wordings on the Controller Operation plate, and the "Power Throttle" and the "Sequence Horn" wordings are flickery
    * The yellow stripes on the outside are flickery

    MP36-3C (SFJ)
    * The "Danger! High Voltage Within" wordings sometimes flicker (in the fuse cabinet)

    SD40-2 UP
    * The "Reverser handle must be removed when unit is in trailing position" flickers

    I found 0 z-fighting issues on these locos:
    * BR112.1
    * BR143 (RSN)
    * BR146 (MSB) (though the thin lines on the main screen are jagged from the default viewing distance)
    * BR155
    * BR187.1 (SKA)
    * BR204
    * BR403
    * BR406 (SKA)
    * BR422
    * BR423
    * BR423 DBKS
    * BR425
    * BR612
    * C40-8W (SPG)
    * Class 09 (WSR)
    * Class 150 (WCL)
    * Class 20 (TVL)
    * Class 33 (WSR)
    * Class 37/5 (TVL)
    * Class 395 (SEHS)
    * Class 45/1 (NTP)
    * Class 465/9 (SEHS)
    * Class 483 (IOW)
    * F7A (CRR)
    * GP38-2 (HSC)
    * HST (GWE)
    * RhB Ge 4/4 II (ARL)
    * MP15DC (SFJ)
    * 1938 TS
    * 1972 TS LT
    * 1972 TS LU
    * RABe 523
    * SD-40 CSX-s
    * SD-40 (CRR)
    * SD40-2 (YN2)
    * SD70ACe (SMH)
    * 8F
    * TGV Duplex Series 200
     
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  4. lukereynolds1

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    I know this post is from last year, but has DTG made any announcement or comment on how they intend to resolve the issue? Driving the 377 this morning, I found the flickering so distracting that I ended up turning the game off. Similarly, the flickering sunflower on the class 43 is preventing me from driving it anymore. I don't like oddities distracting my periphery when driving and it's immersion breaking. Thanks
     
  5. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Well-Known Member

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    forgot this was a thing now (the thread) , haven’t heard anything ever, even products released to this day you find this issue on.
     
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  6. Princess Entrapta

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    The trouble seems to be overlapping textures where an item has been placed so close to another that the surfaces intersect.An old problem that should be reasonably easy to avoid at the design stage, but would require tweaking of the meshes to fix retroactively.
     
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  7. Rutger Luiten

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    The partly solved it with an patch for the Bremen DLC. I have some of these problems on my PC. It's seems that older videocards have more issues with Z-fighting than newer cards. But the problem is caused by a texture layer in the model indead, in the game the system is having a conflict wich texture it should put on front.
     
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  8. pveezy

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    Just found this thread right after I made comments on the exact same issue:
    https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...ith-text-in-cab-of-377-xsx-but-not-ps5.64662/

    I just got a XSX a few weeks ago and (against my better judgement) bought some of the same DLC I already own on PS5.

    Today playing London commuter I noticed right away in the 377 all kinds of flickering with the labels in the cab. It only happens when moving. The interesting part is the exact same train/lighting/service on PS5 and it does NOT happen. I’ve never seen a similar issue with hours playing on the PS5, at least not with this loco. I do remember seeing some stuff with the ATC screen on the Boston F40 I think.

    That said the FPS/performance are noticeably better on the XSX vs PS5 on London Commuter.
     
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    Just wondering… there’s some pretty exhaustive listing of the issue here in this thread… has anyone actually submitted a ticket to DTG about it? I’m not sure if anyone actually reads this forum but they do action tickets (at least add things to the list to get looked at)…
     
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  10. elric#1386

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    Windscreen on the SEHS 395 suffers with a intermittent white flicker. It looks like for a couple of seconds you've drove through fog.
    Platform: PC, MS Store
     
  11. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Well-Known Member

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    I had a try before but I couldn’t work out how to do video uploading/sharing to their support from an xbox

    I’ve now worked out how today and have just submitted ticket for the Acela flickering, I offered to do the other occurrences in the ticket which I believe are related to this issue, I’ll await for a response to proceed.
     
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