Br Class 47 Safety Systems Problem

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  1. Dath Vater 208

    Dath Vater 208 Active Member

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    There is a problem with br Class 47 on consoles (found on Xbox), at least with br Blue one from Northern Trans-Pennine. When pressing "B" button on controller which resets safety systems. The problem is, that besides resetting AWS it releases deadman's pedal for te moment, and if DSD is not isolated, leading to instant emergency brakes application. This makes fast AWS resetting impossible. Additionally there is no precisional controlling on consoles, since TSW2 introduced immersion controls. I personally don't like it. It's really annoying. Most locomotives make player get used to "B" resetting AWS without touching deadman's pedal like br Class 45, or br Class 40, where deadman's pedal initializes braking when player doesn't sit. Please comment what do you think and like this thread, so chance of someone from DTG will see it will increase. I also wish everyone from DTG as stressless as possible work :)
     
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    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    If you don't like the immersion controls (which I prefer to the old controls) then you can change the control layout back to classic in settings.
     
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    It's not I don't like it. I love it! Finally you can zoom on consoles, you can change camera pretty fast etc. Just pressing "B" realeases deadman's pedal. I think it should just press AWS reset button as in br Class 40 and br Class 45.
     
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  4. thomastl59374

    thomastl59374 Well-Known Member

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    I have experienced this issue the few times I do turn AWS on.
     
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    While on NTP it's not a big problem, because AWS doesn't work there, but this loco can drive on a lot of routes using as called "layers", like on ECW, SEHS, Cathcart Circle etc. I personally would like to be able to turn DSD on without those emergency brakes everytime I reset AWS.
     
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  6. AtherianKing

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    Noticed this issue on NTP, only happens if DSD is un-isolated, I think it’s to do with how DSD basically checks if you stand up and when the dead man’s peddle moves it thinks you’ve stood up, it’s strange cause I’m sure the pedal is used in other locos for resetting vigilance but 47’s don’t have vigilance

    I only use AWS isolation on this class, because of this issue
     
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  7. Dath Vater 208

    Dath Vater 208 Active Member

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    Do you have WSR? That would be helpful, because you could write in comment if this applies to the WSR br Class 47 or not.
     
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    I do, I will try to get some time to find out on this issue and edit this post on what I find
     
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    Thank you very much! I was considering getting WSR some time ago, but Spirit of Steam is more important.
     
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    I haven't experienced the problem on the WSR green 47. It seems to be a problem with the blue one only.
     
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    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think the green one is even fitted with AWS
     
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    can confirm it has both aws and dsd
     
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    had a check with the green 47 the pedal moves when acknowledging button is pressed but no brake application upon doing so
     
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    Did you switch DSD switch to unisolated?
     
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    Yea, both aws and dsd at same time we’re on
     
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    Ok, thank you. You helped so much. :) Should I report it to DTG? On technical reports forum page there is a DTG's pinned post that says to report on other page...
     
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    I would say to make sure it’s on a technical report section
     
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    Do I have to make account there, or I can log in using DT Live account, or DT forum account?
     
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    Use current account your using

    technical reports is a thread area on his forum, this one is Xbox discussions and technical report is just beneath that option
     
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    Ok, thank you
     
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