West Anglia Mainline

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  1. Armardar

    Armardar Member

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    Creation of the WAML in TSW2... The lines runs out of london Liverpool Street, and supports services to Stansted Airport and Cambridge, with a Hartford branch line.
    There has never been a waml official made by dtg and there is alot of community support for 3rd party projects, so I would suggest it would be very popular.

    The line has stopping services to Cambridge and semi fast to Stansted Airport.

    Always wanted to see a waml made by dtg
     
  2. ARuscoe

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  3. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    What year/time period would it be based in?
     
  4. jack travers

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    modern era
     
  5. Armardar

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    Yep modern era would be the best
     
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    Would it though?
     
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  7. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    I personally don't think it would as things were better in the old days.
     
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  8. jack travers

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    Yes we don’t need another route in 874 B.C like Spirit of Steam
     
  9. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Well if you don't like spirit of steam don't play it but there are many people in the community which really enjoy older stuff compared too your modern, dull, plastic, electrostars.
     
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  10. jack travers

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    You’re right no one likes Electrostars but we recently got a dlc from steam times and i don’t think anyone wants another dlc from when jesus was born for another while
     
  11. formulabee#1362

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    And some of the modern trains aren’t plain; not all UK trains are electrostars - I invite you to a trip to Sheffield, where there are no Electrostars.

    **class 317’s I’m looking at you boomers**

    Would be best set into the modern period, especially with the history of Essex electric trains etc. This route was, until late 2021, diverse. It saw class 379’s (the best electrostars, now withdrawn), class 317’s and different variants (mostly withdrawn), class 745/1’s and 720/5’s operate along the route.
     
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  12. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Steam engines are very interesting machines which many of us have memories of so I don't see why they shouldn't be in the game. They are such an important part of our history.

    Also liverpool to Crewe is only based 64 years ago 1958 years after Jesus was born.
     
  13. formulabee#1362

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    And in this setting emu’s are better suited than steam; there are better routes for steam than the WAML; Essex was known for its electric train services in the days of BR. It’s a commuter and airport route after all.
     
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  14. matt#4801

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    I am not from Essex but I am sure that if you were to go back 60 plus years the same would have been said about steam trains though. I think this route would benefit from being based in the age of steam as it would differentiate it from all the other routes in the southeast.
     
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    I believe you have missed some of my words out. The WAML is a commuter route, and with nearly all the 317’s out of service now, it would be fitting and make more sense for it to be set in modern period.
     
  16. matt#4801

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    Yes I understand it's a commuter route but I don't see why this should stop it being based in an older era as people have used railways to commute for decades and will continue to during the future.
     
  17. ARuscoe

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    The difference for me would be that north of the Thames lines are electrified with OHLE rather than 3rd rail
    I think I'd prefer something set back a few years rather than right now though... driving a class 90 or 86 would be fun
     
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  18. matt#4801

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    Yes I would be happy with that as it would be something different for me to experience as for me personally that is the whole point of a train simulator.
     
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    Apparently, East Anglia was the first big area of the UK to see services completely taken over by diesel and electric.

    Personally, I think the WAML would be an interesting one for the BR Blue era with a Class 125 or if later on AM multiple units, the 31, 37 and 47 would all be good layers for it too.

    That being said, Essex would make a good setting for a steam route, the GEML around 1951 would make a brilliant transition era route, with Britannia's providing express services whilst Class 76s and 306s can run on the electrified section from Liverpool St to Shenfield. As an extra interesting potential loco for the GEML in 1951, Southern Region Bulleid Pacifics made appearances on Anglian Rails subbing in for Britannias in times of low availability. I think there were diesels around too, but I'm not sure about that, I'm sure someone on here will know the answer there.
     
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  20. matt#4801

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    Honestly even early electrics with some diesel locos would suit me but the Britannias are very tempting.
     
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  21. Tank621

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    Plenty of steam to choose from too, the LNER B12s, B17s and B1s were all common still at the time and then there are the tank engines like the N7 for suburban and branch line services
     
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  22. matt#4801

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    Being from a bit further up north along the ECML for all my life there always has been a special place in my heart for LNERs fleet which I do think is the reason I would like to see it done with steam.
     
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  23. Tank621

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    There's nothing like a bit of local heritage to pique one's interest. To be honest, at this point I'd take any East Anglian route of BR's six original six regions the original Eastern Region is the only which hasn't had a single route in TSW so far, as an Essexman this won't do at all! ;)
     
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  24. Armardar

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    Interesting read on options for era... Personally it's the route and part of the country that I'd like to see, any era sounds interesting. I am biased to modern as I'd personally like to take a 317 from the airport to London.. But I wouldn't complain with any waml any era tbh
     
  25. frabjousvector

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    The past era fans have just had their fill with the SOS and WCL. Time for some modern stuff in my humble opinion.
     
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