Train Sim World 2 - A Coastal Retreat

Isn't it interesting to see the pricing on this add-on? It's $23 (USD) for the Class 484 on a modern-day Isle of Wight, which you may realize is cheaper than the 2010s-style Isle of Wight, which is $25.

Considering these are separate routes, that's pretty interesting that the version with a better timetable, better scenery, and a train that's appealing to more people, is the cheaper version. Kinda makes the original Isle of Wight seem like a silly purchase. Of course, I don't think the price should be changed at all. I just think it's kinda interesting.

 

To be fair the original Isle of Wight will still be way cheaper during a sale, so it's not entirely pointless. With that said it kind of shows how silly it is that DTG never change the base pricing for these addons. Even dropping Isle of Wight 2020's base price five dollars to be just below the new one would make so much more sense than it currently is.

 

Thanks for the helpful feedback...
But seriously, would you mind sharing your thoughts with us? ^^

Nope. It's the updated water (with the foam effect) from West Cornwall Local, it's audio occlusion mixes fixed on the Class 483, it's the added PIS system, it's minor changes on the gameplay and it's overall fixes/improvements on the scenery.


Oh and regarding the price: We though about it that way: It's basically a loco addon (11.99 Pound) with a route attached to it (3.00). We think that sounds quite fair, given the amount of new details which are in there.

 

Jasper - I’ve just loaded up IOW after the update went in today and the sea has not been upgraded to WCL standard. In fact, the sea has been removed altogether. Playing on Xbox One X

 

I don't think they lie intentionally. I just think they genuinly forgott what they said before.

 

Out of interest, the hovercraft shown for the new line is the “old” hovercraft rather than the ones currently in service with the Union Flag on the front. Is this a licensing issue as well (although I don’t think the hovercraft company can claim copyright on the Union Flag design)?

Maybe the new ones are both out at sea. To be fair, having watched the webcam, the old one can still often be seen on the site.

 

Eh, I guess maybe it's an insight into what percentage of those revenues go towards the licensing deals?

 

I imagine that the Brading passing loop will help contribute somewhat towards Rivet's timetabling options this time around.

 

Very much looking forward to this. Out of curiousity, in case you're able to answer this; is this a new business model Rivet is experimenting with here? That's the second time a route gets the "release, then enhance" treatment.

Personally, I like this idea, and would see another one for arosa again.

 

Got a pic comparison? I'd love to see the Union flag on there. Saying that does anyone have a pic of the new livery on the 484?

 

I might not think everything they put out is the best, but it is good to see Rivet engaging with the community. Thanks.

 

Hence why i said unintentionally

 

There's also a lot said in passing which may be intentions or wish list which people take as announcements...

 

That's not good... Could you email us at contact@rivet-games.com with a screenshot? Will forward to our devs anyway.

Cheers, happy to hear that. ☺️
No, it's not a "new business model" we're experimenting with. We wanted to do the Class 484 and because they had brought an overhaul on the route with them, we wanted to do the same overhaul to our route (+ bringing it up to todays standard, going further from there and incooperating what we've learned over the years).

 

Thank you for that. That is a great initiative.

 

...discovered the same problem on PS4 Pro and made two screenshots of it. Already posted it in the Rivet forum!

 

buy a pc

 

You won the best argument of the month

 

I am glad that these updates are ported over to the original version of the route, especially the PIS and water rendering. Tho, I would definitely suggest this to become a new business model. Adding features, fixing bugs and providing new content in one paid package seems to be a good deal, and ensures that even old, already released content gets a continued stream of updates. Especially, and most importantly; since third party like Rivet can't do Pres Crew like DTG.

In my opinion, I'd be happy for more of this.

 

...already have one (even a powerful one), but playing on console is much more relaxing.

 

Thanks. That’s exactly the same as the problem I flagged (also put it in the Technical forum). I wasn’t sure how to send them a screenshot from the Xbox so hopefully, this will be sufficient.

 

I don’t have a screenshot as it’s not on the update to the existing route. I think I saw it on the livestream on Tuesday but I might be mistaken and I may have mis-viewed it. No biggie though.

There is a live webcam which shows the current hovercraft (with the Union Flags front) and the old one on the right of the picture.

 

Has anyone seen the latest video from Rivet showing the new features? Go to 4.20 and look at the plant pots in the shape of trains. It seems the copyright issue that stops them using the correct livery on the trains doesn’t apply to plant pots.

 

Presumably as any associated trade dress is limited specifically to use on actual passenger trains, but not on symbolic representations of them.

 

I thought the exact same thing although I am sure there was some sort of deal or something along those lines allowing them to do it.

 

I'm hoping that the updated route will have a decent amount of start points for scenario planner i.e. all platforms such as at Ryde St John' s Road, the depot, sidings etc.

 

I'm hoping there will at least be static stock on the updated route with a few 484s stabled at St John's Road.

 

Won't be to much considering Island line only has 5 units in real life.

 

I just watched a video on the updated Island Line in real life from Geoff Marshall, and looks like rivet have done a bang up job to me.



And this is coming from someone who has been very vocal on the anti-Rivet front. But I have to admit they seem to have gotten this one right.

To me the price makes perfect sense and looks to be the 1st Rivet DLC since Arosa that I will buy day 1.

But I'm still waiting for that "oh there's the old Rivet" issue to come up. Hopefully it won't happen this time around fingures crossed.

 

Worst case is you cant upload your livery to Creators Club. DTG have never put any restrictions on what liveries we can produce and run ourselves, and I don't think they could even do this if they wanted to.

 

Yeah, soon as I saw this I immediately thought of Geoff's video on it, and yeah. Looks good so far.

 

The train has a square not circle

 

Yeah they aren’t allowed to use the IRL livery.

 

What?

 

SWR would not give Rivet permission to use their brand.

Therefore, Rivet cannot use the livery that is used on the 484 in reality.

 

Ok

 

Actually, I’m quite warming to the fictional livery. The front of the train looks like a smiley face.

 

Is there anything major they talked about in the preview stream? I wasn’t really able to focus on the broadcast as I had some other things going on at the same time.

 

Having been very sceptical about this route re-release and the class 484, I must say that this new version looks and sounds very nice. They have clearly improved the scenery, the train looks good and sounds realistic enough to me. The livery looks nice, I assume they had to make it different enough so not to get into trouble with SWR. It appears there are still discussions about getting a licence so maybe one day the train will be updated to carry the correct livery.

There are lots of nice little typical Rivet touches, like the signal box you can explore and little details like postcards. Also, take note DTG, you can wander around a much greater distance in certain areas, like at Ryde Esplanade, quite far outside the station limits. Something DTG should do a little more of in my opinion.

So although I was certain I wouldn't purchase it as I rarely play the original version, this seems enough of an improvement to make it a worthwhile purchase.

 

Ive pre-ordered it already, but the lack of safety systems demonstrated tonight is a bit of a red flag for me. Although TBF I didn't think the Island Line had AWS fitted.

What was shown looked good and the horn especially sounded great IMO.

 

There are safety systems, they confirmed they were fitted. Jasper had them turned off as I don't think he wanted the distraction of them, although it is hardly the Brighton Mainline!

 

The cynic in me thinks that they were switched off because they aren't working correctly. But then paranoia and cynicism are symptoms of my mental disorder.

 

Ah I see, well it could be that, however he did seem to be at pains to make it clear they were working, which I took to be genuine so from a fellow paranoia I think they will be there. There is a release stream next week I believe so we will see for certain I hope.

 

I suspect this will turn up in my collection at some point… probably if it goes on discount at Halloween or Xmas, which is presumably when the next Steam sales are due.

 

I am unclear as to what is the point of the new collectibles if there is no achievement for collecting them all.

Also, I asked in the stream whether they have tested on Gen 8 consoles to ensure that the sea is not absent as it is after the recent update to the old route. The answer was basically that is is a known problem that is being looked at. However, this answer addressed the old route. What I would like to know is whether the problem is present on the new route upon release. If it has been tested on Gen 8 consoles, which it should have been, then a straightforward yes/no answer should be possible.

 

Something to do other than driving...

 

I am very impressed by the detail they have put into the train. It all looks rather good from the stream last night.

I’m not sure I like the collectables just disappearing though. I much prefer things appearing or changing to add to the scenery rather than things going awol. It’s so easy to accidentally ‘collect’ them as you walk past that it would be a shame to see them go if you decided you would rather have them present. Not the biggest issue I’ve ever come across in TSW but I thought it worth a mention.

 

There would be no incentive though for some since your not getting an achievement