Can someone say something about the new system requirements for the TSW3? Does this mean that if we play dlcs from TSW2 under the new game would need higher specs than before and if so, why would be that? Will old dlcs also benefit from the new clouds new dynamic weather and so on? Also I am curious will the recomended specs PC for TSW2 run TSW3 and in which graphical settings?
New lighting, dynamic weather etc would need more grunt GPU wise. All routes get the dynamic weather but only the new routes, SEHS and SoS (TSW3 versions) get the volumetric clouds etc to begin with The BASE specs for both games are very similar. CPU for both is Core i5-4690 or AMD Ryzen 5, 1500X. AMD GPU has changed from R9 270 to RX460, but both are old so anything newer should "cope" The "recommended" specs should run everything at full spec at full speed The question is what settings do you want to run at, and at what fps? I have been running an old i7 with a RX580 and it's run TSW2 at high settings for everything at between 20 and 30fps for the most part. Just upgrading CPU and Mobo so hopefully that improves my lot
I recently upgraded my RX570 to an RTX 3700ti when a local store offered a good deal (relative to current prices, anyway). Only thing below recommended spec now is my Ryzen 7 3700X CPU, but it benchmarks pretty close to the 5600X. I play at 1080p anyway, because full 4K doesn't make enough of a difference to me to make up for the performance hit. This is kind of strange for me, as I've never before had a PC capable of playing games newer than about 5 years old. That's what the consoles are for. I've never felt current with the times before and am not sure what to do with it.
I don't think dynamic weather would; in fact, it's really a CPU process to insert a "change weather state" routine into the clock cycle. The weather itself is already in the game (except lightning, but that's certainly not a GPU-buster)
Turn up the settings and "enjoy the view" (of hopefully a well rendered and true to life route (so not the old St Ives on WCL))
Would that be true of reflected lighting and shadow creation? Surely a flash of lightning to the left would cast shadows to the right, as well as causing light casting everywhere in between? Might be a small hit, but surely a hit nonetheless. Same with the "snow flurry" thing they showed
Please be assured that you will still have a good experience if you don't have the recommended specs, so long as you are happy playing at a lower resolution, such as 1080p. So if your PC falls somewhere between Minimum and Recommended specs, you should have any trouble getting a good balance of quality and performance. The Recommended specs and intended for players who want to play at 4k with maximum settings.
Thanks for the clarification, Chris! Much appreciated. Honestly all this time i only run 1920x1080 with all my games, so a bit relieved that 3070 is needed if you only want run the games on max on 4K. Cheers
TSW2 runs fine at 4K. Can I expect a similar experience in TSW3 or does TSW3 require more resources to achieve a similar visual quality as TSW2 does?
This is my main beef with TSW3, it's not DTGs fault but prices for 3070s and the like are still daft in my eyes. This means I will pass until I can justify a PC upgrade. TBH the lack of save feature now completely and no signalling upgrades of note mean I'm out.
That joke In two years you never fixed the stuttering problem. The game always had graphic bugs and fps drops everywhere which were never fixed and your "update" with TSW3 will never give a good playing experience. I can't wait to read the steam reviews.
this needs to be somewhere ideally as this was the one element I was not clear about. Are you talking 60fps or 30?
PC performance can be affected by a number of external factors (ambient heat, cooling effectiveness, bloatware, antivirus software etc...), but at 4K with the Recommended Hardware, you should expect performance around 30-60fps. That being said, 4K gaming isn't for everyone, as it comes with a significant cost. Most players will be playing at 1080p/1440p@60fps with lesser hardware.
Buying a 3070 or above is out of the question for me. Currently I have 16gb of ram and a 1660ti with 6gb of video ram and although I have a 4k wide gamut display, run TSW in 1440p or 1080p. My only viable alternative would be an increase to 32gb of ram. So the question is - would that extra ram have much effect in TSW3?
HI roysto25, 16 vs 32 GB of RAM has very little impact on gaming performance, if any. However, if players have less than 16 GB of RAM, it would be highly recommended that they upgrade.
I should mention that they talked about system reqirements on the 11th August stream at around 2 hour and 9 minutes mark. Matt in my opinion were honest about it. Still not completely clear but maybe answered some questions. So listen for yourself and make some conclusions from it.
People on a budget (or generally most people) would benefit from minimum 32GB RAM coming from 16GB. 64GB is also overkill imho.
I have a 3070 and playing tsw2 at 4k isn't really possible with max settings! I would imagine that tsw3 is going to be impossible on max settings.
Hoping for some advice regarding the recommended specs for TSW3. I started my TSW journey (haha) on Xbox (and then Series X), but got a new laptop back in April and decided to switch to PC due to the awful Xbox sound bug....which was apparently fixed subsequently...but all good because now i have access to mods, etc. Fast forward to now and i'm trying to decide whether to stick with PC, or move back to Series X for TSW3. How do more PC-knowledgable people think i'd do with the new recommended specs? I usually run TSW2 as follows, and if i can get similar performance, I'd like to stay on PC: 1080p, full screen. High graphics, TAA, VSync on, 125% screen percentage, high foliage, medium shadow and FX quality, high post-process/view distance/texture quality. Max FPS 60, Motion Blur on. Vanilla .ini files and i do use quite a few sound mods. Laptop specs Win 11 21H2 Ryzen 5 5600H, 3.3GHZ 16GB RAM GeForce RTX3050Ti (laptop) Appreciate any help you all can provide!
so you're wondering if to buy TSW3 for PC or xbocks, Isnt there that game pass thing that allows you to run xbocks stuff on a pc etc? i started with the ps5 version... and switched to PC, not much could make me go back to a console for this game, i've had lightning storms and semi dynamic weather via mods for ages, Just giving up being able to play with the .ini settings would drive me mad going back to console, not to mention lack of raildriver support... and hence giving up any chance of getting my controller working with this game if i went back to console. maybe tsw3 will be different, but to me, the cab textures when playing in 4k mode on the ps5 were a bit naff at times, they did not look like real 4k textures... everything looks so much nicer in 2k / 2560x1600 resolution, which is my laptops native screen res.
Good point about Gamepass on PC, but my TSW2 purchases are tied to Steam, so they wouldn't transfer to the Gamepass version. But, it would let me test performance...... I'd like to pre-order for early access, though.....decisions, decisions lol. Thanks for the reply!
I have a 2070 (and a 6yo CPU with 16GB) and playing TSW2 at 4k with Ultra settings (and quite a few engine.ini tweaks) gives me ~40fps (except for a few notoriously 'difficult' areas in the game). I'd think you should be seeing a solid 60fps.
The fps counter shows steady 60fps but the stuttering and freezing says otherwise, that's with screen scaling at 125% set it to 200% and 20-30 fps but unplayable.
My own setup is too different from yours to compare directly, but here's something from Digital Foundry's review of Forza Horizon 5 that may help: "The bottom line is that for Xbox Series X performance mode equivalence without access to DRS, you'll need RTX 2080 Ti or RTX 3070-class hardware - and the same kit to pull off 1080p120., with this requirement dropping to RTX 2060 Super/RX 5700-class for 1440p60. For quality mode, it's RTX 3080 Ti and RX 6900 XT for 4K60, while the RTX 2080 Ti and RTX 3070 are the ticket for 1440p60. Hitting 1080p at 120fps consistently on these settings requires a gigantic GPU like an RTX 3080, or an RTX 3080 Ti or RX 6900 XT for a harder lock. Daunting stuff." Comparing the RTX 2060 mentioned for 1440p/60fps in performance mode to your RTX3050ti--it's not even close in favor of the 2060, sorry. According to Userbenchmark, the closest GPUs to yours would be the GTX 1060, the GTX 980, or the AMD RX 590. Still above the minimum at least. You're on safer ground with the 5600H CPU, which isn't up to the desktop 5600X that's recommended, but isn't nearly as far off as the 3050ti/2060 difference. RAM is fine. The other consideration is upgradability. Your Xbox X is locked where it is forever, except storage can be expanded. I don't know if your laptop CPU and GPU can be upgraded, but if so, that freedom might make a difference also.
dangerousdave If you're playing in 4K with 200% scaling, the game is effectively running at 8K - that will stretch any graphics card! I run at 100%, but then I have an old potato compared to your fillet steak.
I see. I didn't know that, thanks. Was hoping a rtx 40 series would be the answer as leaks suggested a 4070 would be double the performance of a 3090ti but I read today nvidia are having problems and will be reducing power consumption on the 40 series cards. I imagine this will hurt the performance some.
Thanks for the detailed reply!!! That's very helpful. Got some thinking to do for sure. Since the specs changed so much from TSW2, I kinda wish DTG would provide a playable demo ahead of launch- even if it was just the test track, or something like that.
