"international English" Does Not Exist, And Certainly Isn't Us English

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  1. Disintegration7

    Disintegration7 Well-Known Member

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    As an American i honestly think you're dead wrong on this. Americans generally don't care how things are spelled, and a lot of us mis-spell things all the time both mistakenly and intentionally (we really like bad puns and wordplay). Many Americans also speak creoles of English combined with Spanish, French, or Native American languages and freely interchange words and spellings between them.

    That being said, if the American localization was only in Spanish, THEN you'd have a lot of up-in-arms Americans (despite the USA having the 2nd-most native Spanish speakers in the world IIRC). Every country/culture has their particular set of insecurities, right?

    In any case, I hereby petition DTG to use British English in TSW so we can just move beyond this whole issue.
     
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    No... but I hope that any normal person would react by thinking "huh... that's odd" and continue on with their day, otherwise I'm not sure I'd want to ever go there, if reading "colour" instead of "color" would cause commotion. Same goes for the UK if the expected reaction there is the same (as this thread seems to confirm)
     
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  5. stujoy

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    Now the big question, is Centre spelled incorrectly or is it spelt incorrectly? Hmmm, tricky one.
     
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  6. joerg.lange

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    Wow! And I thought only we Germans had such pointless, hair-splitting discussions... learned something again.
     
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  7. Krazy

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    How on EARTH did you guys get 5 pages out of "center" vs "centre"?! Huh?!?!
     
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  8. Callum B.

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    I live here and nobody would bloody care. They might remark that it is exotic and interesting but then just carry on with their day because it doesn't matter.

    Cheers
     
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  9. solicitr

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    Do people still fight duels over Eszett? ;)
     
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  10. eldomtom2

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    I did not start this thread with the intention of discussing that. I started it with the intention of discussing the broader implications of DTG's statement that the entire game would be in American English.
     
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  11. Disintegration7

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    "Huh...that's odd" is exactly what happens. Maybe some giggling at pronunciations like "aluminium", or slang like "snogging", but that's the extent of it.

    And, it's not like we don't import British foods, books, television, etc....so a lot of them aren't even that odd.

    Honestly, my favorite version of English is from New Zealand, it's just so damn cute! Although most of my experience of it is from Wellington Paranormal and stand-up comedy lol.
     
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  12. solicitr

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    We have WAYYYY too much time on our hands
     
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    Why is it Training Center and not Coaching Center. DTG are not getting a cent more from me until this is changed. :mad:
     
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    It’s amazing how successfully tsw3 has rattled a hell of a lot of cages. We’re at an intersection whereby this could be a real community wreck.

    I expect for the triggered that pacifiers will be required to calm the sick throwing their toy s out their baby carriage.

    I’m going to end up needing a liquor store.


    Concerned “British English” speaking, “international English” writing sarcastic douche
     
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  15. solicitr

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    Because it applies to freight as well as passenger trains.

    "Coachandwagoning Centre" would be awkward.
     
  16. Krazy

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    heh, I guess that's what happens when you have a whole community of people who like staring at a screen for multiple hours, pressing the occasional button.
     
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  17. joerg.lange

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    ;)
    Of course. But not only that. You can spend whole evenings discussing dialects, pronunciations, old vs new orthography and, of course, correct gendering.
    But it's reassuring to know that the others also have their controversial stuff.

    I'm going to go make some popcorn....:cool:
     
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  18. solicitr

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    I will nur Boarisch sprich'
     
  19. joerg.lange

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    My friend, Germany is not only Bavaria! Not by far!! :mad::mad::mad:

    :);)

    But let's not interrupt here this beautiful discussion between the old and the new world...
     
  20. Princess Entrapta

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    Don't you mean kilometres?
    :cool:


    As an aside, that is actually one very useful instance where the two words, metre and meter mean different things here, a unit of measurement vs a measuring device.
     
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  21. joerg.lange

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    Use miles! It's better than all this modern metric stuff anyway.
     
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  22. Princess Entrapta

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    I swap between metric and imperial measurements all the time, since each has circumstances it is better suited to. One is far more practical for actually eyeballing measurements I interact with regularly in day to day life, the other is suited to precise and easily interchangeable values.
     
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  23. Princess Entrapta

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    The one that truly baffles me is the American obsession with Farenheit.
     
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    There is only one English language and so you are referring to dialects which is essentially what american English is.

    Agreed! I have never been able to grasp the metric stuff either.
     
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    How do people care so much where a R is in a word, sure I'd prefer it to be center, but I'm not going start a argument over it.
     
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    You'll pull my Farenheit from my cold (def not 98.6 degrees), dead hands lol.

    For real though, that's the one metric conversion i've never gotten a handle on- just doesn't make sense to my brain.

    Props to DTG for having temperature and distance units be separate settings!
     
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    Celsius seems so easy tho..

    Water freezes at 0 degrees C, and boils at 100 degrees C.

    now what does drive me mad is the way dates are written,
    In the UK we say the day first then the month, so when it's written '04/05' we mean the 4th day of the 5th month, or the 4th of May.

    But in Americanism '04/05' means the 5th day of the 4th month ~ the 5th of April.

    then we have the season that comes after Summer.
     
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  28. matt#4801

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    Autumn. ;)
     
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  29. Callum B.

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    Canadians do it right: Year, month, then day. Automatic chronological sorting!

    Cheers
     
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    Farenheit intended 100 to be normal human body temperature - he was off by a bit - but he succeeded in creating an inherently intuitive scale, where over 100 is "really bloody hot"
     
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    Fahrenheit* was inspired by the works of Ole Christensen Rømer, inventor of the Rømer scale which defines the freezing point of water as 7.5 °Rø and boiling as 60 °Rø. I'm sure even some would still argue that's intuitive if they grew up with it.

    Cheers
     
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    Yet completely screwed up the cold end. "Really bloody hot" is something that pretty much all of the inhabited world experiences (or goes close to), but "really bloody cold" (ie 0F) is way colder than a lot of people will ever experience.

    Plus, a "feels hot/cold" scale is completely arbitrary - as evidenced by current heat waves in Europe which equate to an average Australian summer day.
     
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    A lot of that comes down to construction standards. In a place that is used to a lot of freezing temperatures, everything is built for insulation above all else, to maximise indoor heat around ten degrees above the outside temperature vs somewhere used to higher temperatures where buildings are built to maximise heat venting, and keep the indoor temperature lower.
     
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    This thread has gone quite far enough. Thank you for your considered input.

    For reference we've always used terminology appropriate to the route in question: English on UK routes and US English on North American routes.
     
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