Upcoming Release Master The Machine With Tsw3

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  1. max1313

    max1313 Active Member

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    I’m not sure what the training center does? I thought we was supposed to learned all about PZB, LZB, AFB, not sure how you do that with no signals. I’m confused
     
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  2. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    IMHO they should of delayed TSW3 until they got stuff like this right.
     
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  3. Luke8899

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    To be fair, the route itself is a part of what you're getting with TSW3 whether you use it for training or not, so showing it off in its own right makes sense. But I agree it was odd they did basically nothing other than show the route, when there's a whole new UI containing training videos etc which would have been as useful to see.
     
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  4. Haribo112

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    Have you not been paying attention during previous streams? They have repeatedly said that system specific tutorials (TVM, LZB, Signalling, etc) would be taught on its corresponding route instead of the training center.
     
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  5. max1313

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    Ok I must of missed that. Thanks
     
  6. eldomtom2

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    They showed the first tutorial, but perhaps understandably they seem to have thought that if you're watching a preview stream you probably aren't interested in the stuff aimed at brand new players.
     
  7. dhekelian

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    Isn't that the whole point of the Training Centre though?
     
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  8. eldomtom2

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    Well, it also provides a goalless sandbox to play around with the trains.

    Of course if they'd implemented a free roam feature like MSTS and TSC have...
     
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  9. stujoy

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    It certainly did. I’m thinking that just like many things in TSW it will look better in some routes than in others and vary with weather and time of day settings but hopefully they will get it to look somewhat better in all conditions everywhere. We all want it to add to the game rather than become another thing to annoy us.
     
  10. heyitspopcorn

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    I didn't watch this evening's Training Cent(r)er stream, but at a quick first glance, before I noticed the TSW HUD in the bottom right hand corner, I almost mistook this for a screengrab from a real video.
     
  11. moofeen#2182

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    Ya I think if Munich-Augsburg got extended to Ulm it would be literally the perfect route and I’d pay 50$ easy for it tbh
     
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  12. ARuscoe

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    The SEHS in TSW3 is really three routes IRL.
    HS1 from St Pancras to Ashford
    At Ebbsfleet HS1 has a branch off to the North Kent Lines which in game will go between Dartford and Strood
    At Strood the line meets up with the Chatham Mainline as far as Faversham

    If there's a similar network location in Germany then suggest it and maybe DTG can look at it
     
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  13. philwest#7393

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    Ok, thanks for that, that makes sense, do they need to go from dynamic to baked, how would dynamic work in a dark environment?
     
  14. cadeshr6s

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    Yes he got, you can go To my ICE 1 Suggestion and there ist a PDF document. And yes it is in the Most Wagons the Same
     
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  15. stujoy

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    I’ve just had a thought. When players who have preordered get early access the routes won’t be their full representations because any layers that rely on other DLC won’t be there. Not a huge issue but one to be mindful of when playing during the four days. It may also skew any performance issues that will later arise when all the AI layers are unlocked on installation of the required routes. SEHS will have some playable services missing during early access too.
     
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  16. CowBoyWolf

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    Otherwise just do Scenarios and Tutorials
     
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  17. Crosstie

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    Well the main reason for early access will be to assess the sound, lighting, graphics and any new features such as dynamic weather, plus all the rivet counting of the routes, locos and rolling stock.

    It's a bit of a gamble on DTG's part.
     
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  18. breblimator

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    I am also thinking about it. So the first and the only complete route to play in that day could be perhaps Cajon Pass.
     
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  19. JustWentSouth

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    Are we sure that TSW2 routes won’t be available for download into TSW3 for those with early access?
     
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  20. Disintegration7

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    Yeah, i had assumed early access meant full functionality as no limitations were mentioned.

    A clarification from DTG would be appreciated.
     
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  21. eldomtom2

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    Cajon has layered UP traffic, but not a lot of it.
     
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  22. NateDogg7a

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    I do remember that at some point we were told that no TSW2 content would be available in TSW3 until Sept 6. Whether that was in the FAQs or a livestream, I can't recall. I would not except it to be there earlier, but if I had preordered (I did not), I would give it a shot anyways. I do agree that the experience won't quite be the same without TSW2 layers.
     
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  23. Luke8899

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    According to this post (slightly out of date given the info about the TSW2 core routes which now will be available on launch day) it seems clear enough that prior to 6th September, SoS will be the only TSW2 route available in TSW3, and only to Deluxe edition customers.

     
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  24. Disintegration7

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    Ok, thanks for the info, I must have missed that. Definitely makes early access less appealing.
     
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  25. breblimator

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    I wonder if CRR will be fully playable with new lighting and a new weather system \o/ I mean if the trains will be fully visible now :D
     
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  26. Crosstie

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    Would be nice if it got banking com and proper US loco headlights, but they are never going to happen.
     
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  27. solicitr

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    Neither Clinchfield nor any other legacy route will be getting the new lighting
     
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  28. AtherianKing

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    All routes will have dynamic weather (not sure whether that includes lightning though)

    Apart from that TSW1+2 routes (minus SEHS technically) will have same lighting as before
     
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    Hi

    DTG are very quiet lately.
     
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  31. DigiTMCN

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    Training Centre has a lot of unused rooms. I would have thought they would be used for training PZB etc, for example walk in and sit down to watch a PZB tutorial, Matt is sitting in corner in shadow doing a PowerPoint presentation.
     
  32. junior hornet

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    Bank Holiday in Britain. They should hopefully be back today.
     
  33. YASUKE

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    you mean they can use all trains from the Velaro D family ?
     
  34. CrazyHorseyMan

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    There were a couple of german gamescom Videos. if you want this Video has subtitles (Auto generated only) also according to it,only deluxe Edition players get early access.
     
  35. dhekelian

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    I reckon the Training Centre will be yet another grand idea from DTG soon to be forgotten.
     
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  36. nicolasbeuchelt

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    Hi,

    I wasn‘t able to find a date for Epic games to transfer TSW2 DLCs to TSW3. May somebody help me?

    thanks
     
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