PC (resolved) Pzb 500mhz Immediate Stop Below 25kph

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  1. canadiandoge#4129

    canadiandoge#4129 New Member

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    Was driving the BR 185 on the Sieg-Nord line. Every time I hit a 500 magnet, I get stopped immediately. I know the rule that hitting a 500 mag must reduce to 25kph or less within 153m. But even if I'm already around 22-23kph before hitting, it still stops me.

    Am I doing something wrong?? Or is it a bug. Haven't noticed it on other train/lines yet.
     
  2. Mattty May

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    Might be a dumb question, but are you acknowledging the magnet - can’t remember off the top of my head if you have to or not.
     
  3. canadiandoge#4129

    canadiandoge#4129 New Member

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    Normally, from when i watched Matt's tutorial, you don't need to. But I do so anyways. But the issue is I don't even have time to react. The moment i pass over it, i get stopped.
     
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  4. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    Would you happen to be able to take a recording of it happening? Going under 25km/h, you're under every monitoring speed and there should be nothing stopping you (apart from a 2000Hz magnet). Can't think of any explanation for what you're seeing.

    No, you don't. The only magnets you ever need to acknowledge are 1000Hz ones.
     
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  5. Rich_84

    Rich_84 Active Member

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    I'm having the same issue on Riesa - Dresden, I've driven the 146 & Talent 2 & they both were affected.
     
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  6. breblimator

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    This is rare but it happened to me as well when playing BRD. Departing Coswig towards Dresden, if I rememer correctly.
     
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  7. canadiandoge#4129

    canadiandoge#4129 New Member

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    I also thought 2000 magnets weren't implemented in the TSW series. I will provide video next time I'm on the route
     
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    It actually happened on my run of Kassel just now
     
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  9. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    They are. You need functional 2000Hz magnets for the GPAs.

    That's definitely a bug. Have you opened a ticket yet?
     
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  10. canadiandoge#4129

    canadiandoge#4129 New Member

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    I have not. Next step
     
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    If I look at your hud, it seems that your monitoring (überwachung) isn't active anymore (85 indicator is burning steadily instead of blinking or alternating with the 70 marker), did you press PZB Release when the yellow 1000Hz warning disappeared? In that case PZB is acting as designed: you can only release pzb (press "pzb frei") when you have a clear signal in front of you. In any other case PZB will perform an emergency brake over the 500 Hz magnet (if active) or over the 1000 Hz magnet at the next signal if that one is active because it has a non-clear aspect.
     
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  12. breblimator

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    that's a really good question, bravo \o/
     
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  13. Lamplight

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    Bravo, indeed! That's it. Have a look at this:
    upload_2022-9-23_15-35-13.png
    Right before the 500Hz magnet is passed, you pressed PZB release, canadiandoge#4129, which causes the emergency brake application.
     
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  14. delucadomenico2009

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    The problem was that you released the Pzb, so as soon as the train touch the 500 active magnet, it applied the emergency stop. Just to be sure, the release of pzb can be done only in 2 cases. 1 after main green signal. 2 before a main green signal when the restriction area end.
    Just a tip. During the station approach, throttle at 0 and brake manually. In the games it seems automatic because there is the red signal and the afb stop you, but in real life normally there is the green so you need to slow down yourself
     
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  15. canadiandoge#4129

    canadiandoge#4129 New Member

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    That might explain it. I must of accidentally hit release just before I passed it.
     
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    canadiandoge#4129 New Member

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    Thank you for the advice
     

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