PC Any Guesses For [ 3.nbb-l7 01 ] ?

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  1. Shackamaxon

    Shackamaxon Well-Known Member

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    What North American, AC Electric Locomotive could it be?
     
  2. eldomtom2

    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    It has to be the Acela Express. I don't see what else it could be.
     
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  3. KMAN

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    Acela Express for Boston Sprinter my best guess
     
  4. Shackamaxon

    Shackamaxon Well-Known Member

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    L7 means a loco built after 2011.
    Correct me if I am wrong, but Acela was built before that
     
  5. eldomtom2

    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    The era code indicates the time period in which the locomotive is depicted. For example, the Class 313 is GCC-L7 02 despite being built in the 1970s.
     
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  6. Shackamaxon

    Shackamaxon Well-Known Member

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    Got that, thanks :)
     
  7. Suryaaji#2369

    Suryaaji#2369 Well-Known Member

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    My best guess is Acela Express. In fact DTG already record the Acela's sound when they did Boston Sprinter or NEC survey trip few years ago (please correct me if im wrong).
     
  8. Shackamaxon

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    Yeah, I remember Matt telling that on stream
     
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  9. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Yup, then dtg go out to record, they record as many trains as they can that are relevant to the route and could come as future dlc
     
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    Suryaaji#2369 Well-Known Member

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    I mean, come on, what the options. It's an AC Overhead Electric train. I'm pretty sure it isn't a metro or subway train right. Must be something special like Acela.
     
  11. stujoy

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    I think this is one of the most obvious DLCs ever. There were gaps left for it in the timetable, DTG have the sounds, and the code fits perfectly. My guess is… it’s a train… and we all know which one.
     
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  12. enri.reali

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    msts 2001: acela included!!!
     
  13. redrev1917

    redrev1917 Well-Known Member

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    Could be HPP8, AEM7, Acela or Avelia Liberty.

    Personally I think it'll be either Acela or Avelia but I really want a AEM7
     
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  14. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Like people said above and matt from a long time ago, space was left for the acela services. plus they only got sounds for the acela when they went to a recording trip a few years back when the avelia wasn't even running.
     
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    But did Amtrak provide a license for it for TSW or would they insist on their ugly duckling (IMO) new sparkly toy?
     
  16. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Avelia doesn't even run. It's still in testing. And given how dtg and amtrak work really well together and it's still an amtrak train which dtg do have the license it, it's the most realistic option lol
     
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    Never said it wasnt lol, just pointing out the alternative outside possibilities. Ever thought of the PR of giving Amtrak riders the opportunity to drive their next upcoming new trainset early and the publicity it would gain both Amtrak & TSW3?
     
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  18. Disintegration7

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    I don't see the HHP-8 or AEM-7 as they aren't even in service anymore (Boston Sprinter is a contemporary route IIRC.)

    I think it's inevitable that the Avelia will come to TSW, but I think it will be the star of its own section of the NEC.

    All signs point to the Acela Express.
     
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  19. rennekton#1349

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    We can all dream lol. Would be amazing if we could drive the avelia
     
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    Just imagine how funny it would be, everyone’s speculating and getting excited for the Acela, and boom. It’s actually the AEM-7. This community would be in absolute shambles!
     
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    Aem is a unique locomotive
     
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    I'd love to see the AEM-7, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

    Then again, neither does the ATSF F7 on modern-day Cajon pass, so....
     
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    Likelihood of each loco

    Acela: Highly likely based on what we know.
    AEM-7: Would sort of fit, but doesn't really add anything new to the table.
    Avelia Liberty: Would be nice, but I doubt we will see something that's not even in service yet.
    HPP-8: Does anyone actually like these?
     
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  24. Mich

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    With the AEM-7 I'm pretty certain Caltrain still have two serviceable, so they are still technically in service, just in very limited capacity.

    Maybe someone at DTG should be looking to book another trip to Cali sooner rather than later...
    So is Cajon, and need I remind you what just came out for it?

    Seriously though, I really don't think the AEM-7 or HHP-8 have been out of service long enough where they wouldn't work out on NEC: Boston. Personally I'd be all for both of them getting made at some point for the route, even if I think it's unlikely.
    Completely agree with both of these points though.
     
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    in full agreement with your order, but given the longevity of service of the AEM7 would allow for recycling by DTG for future routes, more so then any of the others. And we all know how DTG love a recycled train.

    Plus its an iconic loco.
     
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  26. Blacknred81

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    If anything the AEM-7 should debut on its own route, bonus points if it's a slightly older route with Phase 3 paint.
     
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  27. Anthony Pecoraro

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    It has to be the Acela, it really can't be anything else.
     
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    If DTG is planning a retro-period US route, then absolutely yes, but given that Clinchfield wasn't a big seller, i wonder if they're nervous about going outside the contemporary period again.

    E.g SEPTA used to run them all the time, but i can't remember the last time i saw one. At least on the Paoli-Thorndale line it's been ACS-64's on the loco hauled services for several years at least.
     
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    They along with the similar ALP44s were retired and sold fairly recently.


    Really the only operator of an AEM-7 right now is Caltrain, since they have 2 they are going to use to test the overhead wire on the Peninsula Corridor.
     
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  30. driverwoods#1787

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    These might be AEM-7 (Can become the basis for OBB Baureihe 1043 for Rosenheim-Innsbruck Innsbruck Garsmich Munchen Hbf Mittenwaldbahn SFS Wien Linz the Westbahn Link is from the German Wikipedia) HHP-8 135 mph (220 kmh) Acela Express and the New Avelia Liberty. For Acela Express if one wants to save money DTG should bundle that as part of the Rush Hour Train Pack with BML Class 700 ICE-T Riesa-Dresden rather than paying $60.00 (GBP 53.68 using the 6 October 2022 rate of $1 = 89 pence reverse is GBP 1 = $1.12)
     
  31. Mich

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    Would there be other popular stock to warrant making a older route for Amtrak though? There's the E60 and the Metroliner sure, but they seem rather obscure to me, especially compared to the locos that replaced them.
     
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    That's the big question and i suspect the answer is no.

    They did already build the (ex-)Metroliner cab car for TSW2020, which could be used with the E60 or AEM-7.

    My personal dream would be a late 70's/early 80's Philly-NYC section of the NEC. Lots of ex-PRR/NYC/PC equipment patched into Amtrak and Conrail colors and just a general vibe of grime, rust, and urban decay.

    It'll never happen but i can dream lol
     
  33. aeronautic237

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    I think it is a Union Pacific Big Boy
     
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  34. solicitr

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    If DTG were going to do a vintage US passenger route, I would just as soon see one in its 1950s heyday, before the decline. Add an E-9 or maybe a Baldwin as a new loco. Since DTG now have license agreements with the Big Four plus CN, that would include nearly all the major fallen flags.
     
  35. Mich

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    The Metroliner cab car would work just as well on a modern NEC route though, well, if it's on the right section of track at any rate. My point is that if the AEM-7 (and the Cab Car) are really the only commercially viable loco from that 80's/90's era timeframe it just makes more sense to put it on a modern route.
     
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  36. Blacknred81

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    Not exactly, if CNs licensing for TSW is the same as TSC, then they are not allowed to use any of the fallen flags under the CN banner.
     
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    Well, IIRC that doesn't include any of the US Class Is except the Soo Line and I think the Erie. Between NS, CSX, BNSF and UP, that is plenty of vintage liveries.
     
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    Just give us a GG1 for Boston Sprinter, I mean its hardly any more wrong than a F7 on CJP
     
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    Soo line is Canadian Pacific IIRC. The major loss from the CN would be the Illinois Central, and their trains like the City Of New Orleans.
     
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    Not going to work because of the voltage GG1 is not designed for 25kv 60hz you need a locomotive capable of 25kv 60hz which means HHP-8 AEM-7 & E60CP. GG1 is rated for 11kv 16.7hz-25hz
     
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    Actually I would like the HHP-8 but I'm just as happy for the Acela.
     
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    It should be OBVIOUS (as far as modding) The avelia Liberty can be unofficially created using the ICE 3 or South Eastern european route Train (own it , own them all, I forget name) CAN SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE IT I TRIED BUT HAVE FAILED!!
     
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    Putting it in all caps makes it sound like you are yelling and is not gonna get you anything.
     
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    Almost certainly the Acela, I think it will look really good.
    The modern trains are nice but I really wish we got more older, classic traction. The trains that take a bit of skill and knack to drive.
    We haven’t seen a new electrostar in a while which is great news.
     
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    Lol, don't mention it. They might make the next route an electrostar route since you've brought the idea lol
     
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    Haha
     

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