German Safety Systems - Questions For Ramagani's Stream

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  1. DTG Alex

    DTG Alex Community Manager Staff Member

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    Hello everyone,

    I am setting up a dedicated thread for any questions in advance of next week's stream, hosted by our german ambassador and railway driver Ramagani, who will be explaining in full how german safety systems work for both english and german audiences!

    Please ask any questions you may have for Ramagani to prepare in advance! :)
     
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  2. tygerways#2596

    tygerways#2596 Well-Known Member

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    How do the (two-screen) MFD's installed in the BR 401 and BR 403 trains in SKW distinguish between a restricted and a normal PZB monitoring (both 1,000 and 500 Hertz)? Is this documented in any DB Richtlinie? Do you think this is implemented correctly in the game (on the modeled MFDs, NOT on the HUD/safety system helper)?
     
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  3. Disintegration7

    Disintegration7 Well-Known Member

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    Could we get an in-game PZB tutorial??

    That would really be helpful IMO.
     
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  4. aeronautic237

    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    Shouldn't this be pinned? Or sticky-ed? I nearly missed it!

    Should you acknowledge before the signal or after you pass it. What does the system allow for?
     
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  5. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    Well, the acknowledging itself has to happen after you passed the signal or, more precisely, after passing the active 1000Hz magnet. PZB has no other way of knowing you passed a signal. What you can do, however, and some drivers do this in real life as well, is to hold the acknowledge button down while passing the signal and then release it as soon as you’ve passed the signal (it’s letting go of the button that actually does the acknowledging). That way, the 3 seconds timing is not as tight since you only need to let go.
     
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  6. Bertil Persson

    Bertil Persson Active Member

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    I'll try that. I used to push the button two or three times. Seems to work also.
     
  7. aidanhughes1

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    what are the rules for acknowledging an upcoming speed reduction? (the orange triangle speed boards) are there different rules for different pzb modes?
     
  8. Callum B.

    Callum B. Well-Known Member

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    1. Acknowledge all restrictions of 70 km/h or lower
    2. Acknowledge a restriction of 80 km/h if you are travelling faster than 95 km/h
    3. Acknowledge a restriction of 90 km/h if you are travelling faster than 105 km/h
    No.

    Cheers
     
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  9. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    Also done by a lot of drivers in real life.

    Technically, all reductions to below 100 km/h have to be acknowledged according to the rule book. However, as you imply, if you're within the 15 km/h tolerance for 80 and 90 km/h, then no 1000Hz monitoring will be triggered as the magnet is already inactive thanks to the GPA. Just throwing that in there for those wanting the most realism.
     
  10. Ramagani

    Ramagani Active Member

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    Hey Everyone.

    Sorry that i have now the first time to Answer. I would like to write all your Question out and at 20th i will show you all. Inside the Stream i would like to show all about Signals and PZB/LZB and Other systems. After the stream you will find the Stream also on my Archiv on youtube.
     
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  11. Ramagani

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  12. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community Staff Member

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    Have pinned, even if it's a little late.
     
  13. Ramagani

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    Before we Stream Tonight i want to give all a Little on Hand
     

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