Xbox Why Can't The 314 Scr Be Used On Iow2022?

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  1. SHINO BAZ

    SHINO BAZ Well-Known Member

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    It has trains short enough to fit this route.
     
  2. Hiro Protagonist

    Hiro Protagonist Well-Known Member

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    The Class 314 uses AC OHLE, whereas IoW is DC third-rail (being ex-Underground stock)
     
  3. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Well-Known Member

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    Assuming you of course mean scernario planner, and not asking why Scotrail don’t run in the southern most point of England.

    Sounds like it’s been missed of the list of what it lets you pick accidentally, all trains length wise should work as power types don’t matter in “of the rails”
     
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  4. jack travers

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    Are you sure you are in scenario planner and on off the rails

    and for the guy above 3rd rail and ohle stuff does not matter at all so don’t listen to him
     
  5. Hiro Protagonist

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    Fair enough, I've never played around with Scenario Planner so I just figured it would match the interfaces (ie you could run a diesel/steam loco on third rail but not an AC one). And apart from just mucking around for S&G, I'd kinda want to keep the options realistic anyway (otherwise you end up with ridiculous situations like a TGV Duplex running on the 'Tube (and I mean "on", as opposed to "in")
     
  6. ARuscoe

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    When off the rails was first touted as a good thing on the planner they put an american freight loco through the Bakerloo
    Apparently this is something people actually want to do
     
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  7. AtherianKing

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    don’t see much of a reason to limit that sort of thing, if you know it’s something very unrealistic either do or don’t use it that way. Leaves the choices open for those who do.
     
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  8. Dath Vater 208

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    Imagine br Class 314 running on IoW and then e.g. EU07 on Glasgow Cathcart Circle.
     
  9. Hiro Protagonist

    Hiro Protagonist Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I've seen screenshots of it

    It's not my thing, and I've got no problems with people who do it, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't available as an option.
     
  10. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely... people will want to do all sorts of weird and wonderful things. Even if they then go onto talk about breaking of immersion etc
     
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  11. trainsimplayer

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    At least it's in the custom editing space and not in the timetables I suppose. Still plenty of proper gems for scenarios on creators club.
     
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  12. Princess Entrapta

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    Off the rails is one of the most delightful aspects of the scenario creator
     
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  13. AtherianKing

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    I think there’s still a massive difference, at least when I refer to immersion between modes, timetable mode isn’t very editable by player and it’s meant to be the most real to life aspect of the gameplay (IMO not including the individual locos)

    On the other hand immersion or lack off is better suited with scenario planner to either make something out of the ordinary or try and have a go at something realistic.

    I’m always for true to life in timetable mode or as close as.

    some examples

    1. I don’t mind the underground train being the wrong stock on GWE.

    2. I wasn’t a big supporter of the wrong dopplestock on Hamburg Lübeck. Likewise with DB BR 101 control car

    3. I’m fine with a certain container paint scheme introduced with Sherman hill. (won’t get more into that or this thread will descend like they all do on this one)

    4. TGV on SEHS I find not overly realistic nor overly unrealistic.

    5. the ICE on SEHS is a nice addition despite probably being out of the time the route is set to when they were testing these out.


    but scenario planner is neither real nor restricted in that sense, so anything in their what people keep on their own systems or optionally upload to CC remains all fine.

    :) Just my opinion when it comes to issues of realism and scenario planner
     
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  14. Dath Vater 208

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    Wait. What ICE on SEHS? Is there ice on SEHS in timetable mode?! If it is, then it's amazing
     
  15. AtherianKing

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    An ICE3 shows up at Pancras, is where I’ve seen it. Don’t recall the timings though
     
  16. Hiro Protagonist

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    It's only static stock at St Pancras though from memory though.
     
  17. AtherianKing

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    I don’t think it is, I’ve been to Pancras a few times and not seen it. Though it is Ai for definite
     
  18. Hiro Protagonist

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    Yeah that's what I meant (wrong words came in to my head), it's "background stock" not meant for player interaction
     
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  19. FredElliott

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    SD40 on Bakerloo is amazeballs

    That is all
     
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  20. Dath Vater 208

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    Oh, I didn't know. I also didn't expect it there due to lack of player services with it
     
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  21. FredElliott

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    Joviality aside, is there actually another loco that would physically fit inside the bakerloo tunnels that's present in game? I wouldn't have thought so but I don't have every DLC

    Edit: I mean physical dimensions of loco only, and not including pantygraphs in the dimensions since they can be folded flat
     
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  22. thatyaxthing#3408

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    The class 483 from the original island line can fit, though that is because it is a tube train (and was later used for the '38 stock DLC)
     
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  23. FredElliott

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    Ah yes I should have remembered that one, blonde moment

    Question still open though, I wonder if any of the German locos could fit as an example since some of the passenger wagons are low floor platform access, but does that make for an equivalent reduction in height?
     
  24. AtherianKing

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    I don’t believe any do currently in game, 423 or 422 probably best kind of fit but still quite tall, especially side by side next to a 72 which barely fits

    only other that comes to mind is 363/G6/204 but considering how you have to climb up into it and the height compared to player, it’s still probably quite a bit taller than the tunnels.

    the 484 former D stock is Probably quite a small height train but still taller I think than the tunnels.
     
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  25. trainsimplayer

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    The D-Stock was sub-surface so is of a larger size than a deep-level like the 72 stock
     
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  26. Hiro Protagonist

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    It's A- rather than D-stock, but this is a good comparison picture between sub-surface and deep tube
    [​IMG]
     
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